[Battlefrog]

This car:



Car: 335i convertible
MY: 2009
MIles: 29,900
Package: M-Sport, Premium
Options: Steptronic, Navigation, PDC, Comfort Access
In-service date: August 2009
Carfax: clean with one owner
Asking price: $39,890

I plan to have a thorough PPI done before consumating the deal.

It was a trade-in at a Porsche dealership, and they're asking for $39,890. I'd like to put in an offer in the next day or two and start negotiating. Thoughts? Overpriced? Under? On target? What should I end up paying for this car? Also considering we're heading into summer... I assume prices on convertibles are firming up a little bit.

All advice welcome! Thanks everyone, and hope to rejoin the BMW family very soon!

Jay

[O HELLA BMW]

I'd offer $35-$36 ish, is it CPO???

I bought my 08 335i vert with all options except the front cruise control radar with a 5 year 120,000 ext warranty for $35k

[slider86]

Wrong section, but that seems like a steal.

Doesn't look a CPO, though.

[Battlefrog]

Nope. Not a CPO. It was a trade-in from the original owner at a Porsche dealership. Sorry about posting in the wrong section - newb mistake. My bad. Can I move the thread? Or maybe a mod could do that?

[FVM3]

offer 35k

[Battlefrog]

Thanks for all the advice so far. Very interesting. So are you guys suggesting $35k-36k as the initial offer, or the final, walk-away price I should pay for this thing?

Jay

[max]

Your price of 36k is about right. I paid 39.8k for one with only 12480 miles, regular sport package not the M sport package -
See post here:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=542584

[Battlefrog]

Originally Posted by max

Your price of 36k is about right. I paid 39.8k for one with only 12480 miles, regular sport package not the M sport package -
See post here:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=542584

Wow. That's an awesome car and price. I would have done that deal in a heart beat. Love the color combo too.

[AlexH]

This one looks like it has nav too. Check nada. $37k would be a hot deal. $35k or $36k aint gonna happen. They are not going to give it to you for cost or less than cost unless they made out like bandit on a Porsche to that previous owner.

[Vector]

Agree with Alex. This car looks pretty loaded. Even at the price they are asking, it sounds like a good deal. Go to Autotrader.com, cars.com, or even Craig's List and do a little comparing to see. I think you will find that there are not many 2009 335i convertables being offered below $40k without a ton of mileage.

[Battlefrog]

Yup. Thanks Vector & Alex. I've checked Edmunds, KBB, and Nada. A car that's reasonably loaded, good condition, and 29k miles cars are priced at around $38k trade-in, $39-41k private party, and $43k+ at dealer retail. Looks like the asking price is reasonable. Just wanted to get the street level opinion from you guys. Max's recent purchase of a similar car with 13k miles for just under $40k, from a dealer, is a great data point.

[Trojan4evr]

Hey man, before taking any action, check Crevier pre-owned inventory. I have had good experience with them so you can also use the advantage of CPO

Edit: Why in IL if you're in Cali?

[Battlefrog]

@Trojan: I've been checking the inventory at the local dealerships, but they just don't have the color combos and/or options I'm looking for. And the prices are quite high too, mostly in the low $40s, and even more for CPO. So as much as I hate paying for shipping, I'd rather buy a car I really want from Chicago rather than a 2nd or 3rd choice car locally.

[asabesan]

Find a dealer who is willing to take your to Manhiem or let you buy from the dealer inventory. I got a 2010 328i convertible with every option possible with 16000 for 39000

[AlexH]

Originally Posted by jayong

Yup. Thanks Vector & Alex. I've checked Edmunds, KBB, and Nada. A car that's reasonably loaded, good condition, and 29k miles cars are priced at around $38k trade-in, $39-41k private party, and $43k+ at dealer retail. Looks like the asking price is reasonable. Just wanted to get the street level opinion from you guys. Max's recent purchase of a similar car with 13k miles for just under $40k, from a dealer, is a great data point.

I saw a clean 06 z4 3.0si with 30k miles listed for $17500 in Palmdale. The price is already at low trade in value. I got lazy and thought to wait a couple more days to knock another $1k off. It got snapped up under my nose. If I had to do it again, I would pay $18k and paypal a couple hundred dollars to the seller to hold it for me until the weekend. I guess my point is if the color combo is what I want and the car is in top condition, I would not want to mess with dickering with the price.

Another example is a loaded (nav included) 2008 128i converitble with 19k miles advertized up by a noCal Acura dealer for $24.8k. I asked for a couple more grand off and it got snapped up fairly quick by someone else for advertized price.

I think the newer BMW convertibles hold their value much more than other models. There are just not that many around with low miles and loaded. Good luck with the negotiations! Remember that it's better to pay a bit more for a clean and loaded car over a cheap and high mileage car.

[Vector]

Originally Posted by jayong

@Trojan: I've been checking the inventory at the local dealerships, but they just don't have the color combos and/or options I'm looking for. And the prices are quite high too, mostly in the low $40s, and even more for CPO. So as much as I hate paying for shipping, I'd rather buy a car I really want from Chicago rather than a 2nd or 3rd choice car locally.

- Would agree with Trojan that Crevier is a good place to buy a used Bimmer. Bought mine there. BTW, California Beemers has a dark red convertible for $39k with 7k miles on it, fairly loaded as well.

[max]

Originally Posted by Vector

- Would agree with Trojan that Crevier is a good place to buy a used Bimmer. Bought mine there. BTW, California Beemers has a dark red convertible for $39k with 7k miles on it, fairly loaded as well.

Buyer beware on the California Beemers vert for $39k with 7k miles on it.....it was in a bad rear end wreck and has been rebuilt. CarFax is clean and does not show this massive repair. I got some inside info on it otherwise would have bought it. Just a heads up, take a chance on it if you want to.
Peace.

[Battlefrog]

Originally Posted by max

Buyer beware on the California Beemers vert for $39k with 7k miles on it.....it was in a bad rear end wreck and has been rebuilt. CarFax is clean and does not show this massive repair. I got some inside info on it otherwise would have bought it. Just a heads up, take a chance on it if you want to.
Peace.

Yup. I checked out that car too, and the accident sounded bad. Color is a little odd too.

So to wrap this story up, I offered $39,250 for the Lemans blue M-sport. The salesperson agreed to the deal and emailed me a form to put down a credit card deposit. An hour later, he rescinded the deal and said that his GM won't sell it for less than $39,900 since someone else put that offer on the table. I held firm, and the car sold to the other guy. A bit cheesy, but that's life. I'll just have to keep on searching.

[Vector]

Originally Posted by max

Buyer beware on the California Beemers vert for $39k with 7k miles on it.....it was in a bad rear end wreck and has been rebuilt. CarFax is clean and does not show this massive repair. I got some inside info on it otherwise would have bought it. Just a heads up, take a chance on it if you want to.
Peace.

Originally Posted by jayong

Yup. I checked out that car too, and the accident sounded bad. Color is a little odd too.

So to wrap this story up, I offered $39,250 for the Lemans blue M-sport. The salesperson agreed to the deal and emailed me a form to put down a credit card deposit. An hour later, he rescinded the deal and said that his GM won't sell it for less than $39,900 since someone else put that offer on the table. I held firm, and the car sold to the other guy. A bit cheesy, but that's life. I'll just have to keep on searching.

- Did not know how shady California Beemers could be. A dealer once told me that low mileage, newer cars have first dibs with the dealers, then eventually goes out to the used car dealers like California Beemers. Thanks for the tip, and glad I bought my car at a dealer.

- Sounds like you handled the deal the most fair way you you can. Usually $750 is not a deal breaker, and a little shady if the deal was agreed to by the salesperson (they backed out of an agreed deal). There will be other cars.

[AaronLBeltran]

For comparison, mine was purchased last week, not a vert' though.

2009 335i Coupe
Steptronic
Fully Loaded
34k miles
CPO
$38,500 out the door