Once and for all... what's the verdict on General Exclaim UHPs?

E90Newbie · 05-14-2007, 08:05 PM

Hey guys,

Sorry if this is an old topic, but I searched through all of the threads and there wasn't enough to make a firm decision. Most of the things mentioned about the General Exclaim UHPs were good, but I also read some bad things like, "you get what you pay for..."

I like to hug corners and all that, but I wouldn't consider myself an extremely aggressive driver. I'm willing to spend up to about a grand, so I've been looking into the Falken FK-452s. However, it seems like the General's are almost as good for half the price! What's the final verdict?

From what I've seen, here are the most common reviews:
* Good tires regardless of price.
* Good tires for the price.
* Not good tires at all

Thanks guys!

alexalex · 05-14-2007, 08:10 PM

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rmorin49 · 05-14-2007, 08:15 PM

Here's what I have found based on weeks of research but no firsthand experience. I am trying to decide what to replace my RFTs upon redelivery in a couple of weeks:

Generals: not the best tire available but for the price, quite a bargain. They are rated all season but not recommended for anything other than light snow. The Falken 452s are strictly a summer tire. Most who are running the Generals seem quite happy especially when you factor the price. I just put a set of Falken 512s on my MINI Cooper and so far I am quite happy. They replaced a set of Toyo Proxes 4. Toyos were perhaps a bit grippier but rode a tad stiffer. The Falkens seem lighter and handle very well. For the price I am quite happy. If the Falkens are still available when I am ready I will consider them for my E93 as well as the General UHPs. I understand the Falken 512 may be discontinued but will probably be replaced with another similar HP AS tire as the 512 has been a very good seller with good reviews.

If you need a tire for all seasons and light snow, the Generals would be a fine choice. You will give up a little performance but for the money, it is quite a buy. You might also want to consider the Falkens, Kumho ASX, Toyo Proxes 4 or the Avon M550. Decisons, Decisions!

montreal_bimmer · 05-14-2007, 08:15 PM

im all for the general exclaim tires, theyre excellent tires, especially for the price....

everyone that says "you get what you pay for" are people that think the higher the price the better the product.... as we know thats not always right

dont expect to get T1R or F1 grip, but these are as good as many UHP tires on the market..

they weigh less than almost every other tire brand....

who ever hasnt had them, know nothing about them

evoi19 · 05-15-2007, 03:43 AM

I have them mounted on 19's and have had them for about 2 weeks now.

I'm used to having a summer tire only in my past cars. The grip is a little noticeable when i push it around a turn/corner. But for me, I don't always push my car to the limit, so it wasn't a huge priority on my list. What was a priority, was quietness and treadwear. They're relatively quiet compared to summer only tires, and treadwear is rated at 380 which is pretty damn good. Grip, i give it high 7's to low 8's. Unfortunately I've never had the 452's so i can't compare the two.

E90330iS · 05-15-2007, 04:02 AM

Note that the Generals don't fit 18" stock rims...

dan8131 · 05-15-2007, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90330iS

Note that the Generals don't fit 18" stock rims...

Is this totally true? Or are you just saying this because TireRack's handy dandy configurer says they don't?

Any tire experts want to comment on this?

Stock setup:

18x8 F and 18x8.5 R
225/40/18 F and 255/35/18 R

Closest Available Generals:
225/40/18 F (meas. rim width 8") and 245/40/18 R (meas. rim width 8.5")

RiXst3r · 05-15-2007, 08:36 AM

How are these on 19"s compared to the stock potenza runflats on stock 18"s?

ride?
noise?
grip?

Anyone make that transition, and have any feedback?

6MTFTMFW · 05-15-2007, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan8131

Is this totally true? Or are you just saying this because TireRack's handy dandy configurer says they don't?

Any tire experts want to comment on this?

Stock setup:

18x8 F and 18x8.5 R
225/40/18 F and 255/35/18 R

Closest Available Generals:
225/40/18 F (meas. rim width 8") and 245/40/18 R (meas. rim width 8.5")

I think what he meant was that they don't fit well, 245/40/18 will not look right comparing to 255/35/18 and it's 2.8% difference. If you want Generals UHP, you gotta go with 19"

dan8131 · 05-15-2007, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panerai7

I think what he meant was that they don't fit well, 245/40/18 will not look right comparing to 255/35/18 and it's 2.8% difference. If you want Generals UHP, you gotta go with 19"

Ok, sure...they won't look exactly as the stock tire would, I'll give you that.

But, will there be any rubbing issues or physical limitations that would prevent this tire from operating correctly?

MINNOW · 05-15-2007, 02:13 PM

No physical limitations, that size will work OK, speedo error is negligible for difference in circumference of +/- 3%.

FrankoQ · 05-15-2007, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

How are these on 19"s compared to the stock potenza runflats on stock 18"s?

ride?
noise?
grip?

Anyone make that transition, and have any feedback?

I switched to the generals about 2 weeks ago.
Unfortunately, I haven't been driving the car much but I'll say this:
ride: The 19 generals feel a bit softer than the 18 RFTs.
Noise: haven's paid attention to that yet. I usually have the Ipod a bit loud.
grip: I took a few turns at higher speeds and felt the car solid and confident in the turn.

In short, I'm really happy with them. You can't beat that price.
I'm not an aggressive driver. I do step on it from time to time,
On back twisty roads, I like to feel the turns and so far all is good.

My 2 cents.

Chio · 05-15-2007, 02:56 PM

I have had the Generals on for about a month and love them the ride is so much better. the grip is great in wet and dry i have done some country road rides and need to look into balancing the wheels but over all great tires

335i-SG · 05-15-2007, 03:09 PM

Can we see a close-up shot of these mounted. Just want to see how they look mounted on a rim. I alread saw Tire Rack but I would like another pic.

HRC · 05-15-2007, 03:41 PM

They seem to be a "Good tire for the price".

Danny

evoi19 · 05-15-2007, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335i-SG

Can we see a close-up shot of these mounted. Just want to see how they look mounted on a rim. I alread saw Tire Rack but I would like another pic.

Here you go. 275/30/19 mounted.

335i-SG · 05-15-2007, 04:08 PM

Thank you for the pics.

FotiosF90M5 · 05-15-2007, 05:39 PM

just buy them.I had them for 2 months and I loved them.For the way you drive and what you need them for they are perfect.They look really good too.The grip in the rain is maybe the best out of any tire I've ever had.You'll be happy with the savings and performance, trust me.

SteanLV · 05-15-2007, 06:00 PM

Heard a lot of good stuff from General HP, I will be getting them after my toyos run out of thread. I was window shopping on tirerack for a set, and pretty much could get a full set shipped for 600$ not bad

Carnage · 05-15-2007, 06:42 PM

I had them on my M3 and I was very happy with them. Good grip, handled with in the rain and they were quiet.

E90Newbie · 05-15-2007, 10:49 PM

Thanks for all the feedback. I place my order for the Generals today. (235/35/19 fronts, 265/30/19 rears). Hopefully I'll get them mounted this weekend or early next week. I'm having some issues with my rim purchase. F*cking USPS misrouted my payment... ARGH! I'll post pics when I finally get my rims and tires on. I'll also add my own review of the Generals to this thread.

jet987 · 05-28-2007, 08:22 PM

I've had the General Exclaim UHP tires for almost a year now on my 19" stagerred setup on my 2006 325i w/ZSP, excellent so far.

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E90Newbie Private First Class 21 Rep 132 Posts Drives: 330i ZSP Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (0)	Once and for all... what's the verdict on General Exclaim UHPs? Hey guys, Sorry if this is an old topic, but I searched through all of the threads and there wasn't enough to make a firm decision. Most of the things mentioned about the General Exclaim UHPs were good, but I also read some bad things like, "you get what you pay for..." I like to hug corners and all that, but I wouldn't consider myself an extremely aggressive driver. I'm willing to spend up to about a grand, so I've been looking into the Falken FK-452s. However, it seems like the General's are almost as good for half the price! What's the final verdict? From what I've seen, here are the most common reviews: * Good tires regardless of price. * Good tires for the price. * Not good tires at all Thanks guys! __________________ /* '06 330i \| ZSP \| Blk Sapphire/Blk 'ette/Alum \| 6MT \| 35% tint / / RAYS Lexion 105 19x8.5 (F) 19x10 (R) wrapped in General Exclaim UHP 235/35/19 (F) 265/30/19 (R) / Contemplating*: Blacklines, H&R sport springs, M3 steering wheel, M-sport shift knob + e-brake handle, CDV delete
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rmorin49 Major 57 Rep 1,162 Posts Drives: 11 335d/10 Z4 s30i Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hagerstown, MD iTrader: (1)	Here's what I have found based on weeks of research but no firsthand experience. I am trying to decide what to replace my RFTs upon redelivery in a couple of weeks: Generals: not the best tire available but for the price, quite a bargain. They are rated all season but not recommended for anything other than light snow. The Falken 452s are strictly a summer tire. Most who are running the Generals seem quite happy especially when you factor the price. I just put a set of Falken 512s on my MINI Cooper and so far I am quite happy. They replaced a set of Toyo Proxes 4. Toyos were perhaps a bit grippier but rode a tad stiffer. The Falkens seem lighter and handle very well. For the price I am quite happy. If the Falkens are still available when I am ready I will consider them for my E93 as well as the General UHPs. I understand the Falken 512 may be discontinued but will probably be replaced with another similar HP AS tire as the 512 has been a very good seller with good reviews. If you need a tire for all seasons and light snow, the Generals would be a fine choice. You will give up a little performance but for the money, it is quite a buy. You might also want to consider the Falkens, Kumho ASX, Toyo Proxes 4 or the Avon M550. Decisons, Decisions! __________________ Colonel (Retired), US Army/Hagerstown, MD 2016 518ixdrive/MSport AW/Ivory White ED-01-10 2010 Z4s30i AW/Beige/Burl/ 6MT/SP/PP/CWP/NAV/ipod/USB/CA (retired) 2011 335d BS/Oyster/PP/CWP/NAV/ipod/USB(Daily Driver) 30+ mpg(retired)
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evoi19 Lieutenant General 1708 Rep 17,450 Posts Drives: 2022 G80C Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (18)	I have them mounted on 19's and have had them for about 2 weeks now. I'm used to having a summer tire only in my past cars. The grip is a little noticeable when i push it around a turn/corner. But for me, I don't always push my car to the limit, so it wasn't a huge priority on my list. What was a priority, was quietness and treadwear. They're relatively quiet compared to summer only tires, and treadwear is rated at 380 which is pretty damn good. Grip, i give it high 7's to low 8's. Unfortunately I've never had the 452's so i can't compare the two.
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RiXst3r 287 Rep 6,510 Posts Drives: M235i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ohio iTrader: (14)	How are these on 19"s compared to the stock potenza runflats on stock 18"s? ride? noise? grip? Anyone make that transition, and have any feedback?
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MINNOW Current E90 Fetishist 4 Rep 246 Posts Drives: '07 323i / '04 MINI Cooper Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Edmonton, Alberta iTrader: (0)	No physical limitations, that size will work OK, speedo error is negligible for difference in circumference of +/- 3%.
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Chio Lieutenant 140 Rep 597 Posts Drives: G80 M3 Cp, x7 M60 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: STL iTrader: (1)	I have had the Generals on for about a month and love them the ride is so much better. the grip is great in wet and dry i have done some country road rides and need to look into balancing the wheels but over all great tires
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335i-SG Second Lieutenant 30 Rep 265 Posts Drives: 2013 335i M-Sport Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Miami iTrader: (0)	Can we see a close-up shot of these mounted. Just want to see how they look mounted on a rim. I alread saw Tire Rack but I would like another pic.
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E90Newbie Private First Class 21 Rep 132 Posts Drives: 330i ZSP Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (0)	Thanks for all the feedback. I place my order for the Generals today. (235/35/19 fronts, 265/30/19 rears). Hopefully I'll get them mounted this weekend or early next week. I'm having some issues with my rim purchase. Fcking USPS misrouted my payment... ARGH! I'll post pics when I finally get my rims and tires on. I'll also add my own review of the Generals to this thread. __________________ / '06 330i \| ZSP \| Blk Sapphire/Blk 'ette/Alum \| 6MT \| 35% tint / / RAYS Lexion 105 19x8.5 (F) 19x10 (R) wrapped in General Exclaim UHP 235/35/19 (F) 265/30/19 (R) / Contemplating*: Blacklines, H&R sport springs, M3 steering wheel, M-sport shift knob + e-brake handle, CDV delete
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jet987 First Lieutenant 47 Rep 375 Posts Drives: 2019 Mazda MX5 Miata Club/BBS Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (0) Garage List 2017 BMW 230I [0.00]	I've had the General Exclaim UHP tires for almost a year now on my 19" stagerred setup on my 2006 325i w/ZSP, excellent so far.
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