Beta Testers for PROcede v2

HyperM3 · 05-16-2007, 10:52 AM

Anyone get any emails yet???

ADHD · 05-16-2007, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HyperM3

Anyone get any emails yet???

negative ghostrider

elmaki · 05-16-2007, 11:05 AM

I haven't seen this discussed of recent, but I remember early on Shiv mentioning that with the ability to upgrade maps on your procede -there would be some sort of subscription fee in which you pay for in some interval throughout the year. Curious, are people paying for their map upgrades? or is this all on the house thus far?

TahoeOG · 05-16-2007, 11:09 AM

^ where did you get this info from? Subscription fee?

DrM · 05-16-2007, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by billmister

^ where did you get this info from? Subscription fee?

WHAT?!?!?

So let me get this straight, you have to pay $1300, wait a few months to get your product, THEN have them change the deal after the fact? There was no mention of a "subscription" to get new maps. There have been a number of posts indicating that new maps will be free. If Shiv changes and tries to make people pay for the new maps there are going to be a LOT of pissed off people.

CASHBY · 05-16-2007, 12:30 PM

he said by this weekened people who are selected for test will get an email.

IMJUSS2NASTY · 05-16-2007, 12:37 PM

First of all, there is absolutely so subscription fee or fee of any kind for the new maps. Secondly, I do not blame him if he does charge a minor fee for more enhanced quality maps. Everybody needs to eat!!!!

elmaki · 05-16-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DrM

WHAT?!?!?

So let me get this straight, you have to pay $1300, wait a few months to get your product, THEN have them change the deal after the fact? There was no mention of a "subscription" to get new maps. There have been a number of posts indicating that new maps will be free. If Shiv changes and tries to make people pay for the new maps there are going to be a LOT of pissed off people.

It was something he had mentioned early on, but from the reaction and input it doesn't appear that he decided to do so yet.

elmaki · 05-16-2007, 12:41 PM

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All new software updates will be free as always. Software updates are basically new and improved maps/calibration files. New yet-to-be-implemente features d such a VANOS control, launch control, speed limited boost control, etc,. are all things that have to be implemeted by firmware updates and revisions to the actual tuning software. Considering the time, resources involved and support needs in bringining these feature into reality may require some nominal fee or perhaps a subscription cost. We haven't figured out how we are going to do that. But it will be very fair.

cheers,
shiv

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TahoeOG · 05-16-2007, 12:41 PM

G35revup · 05-17-2007, 12:08 AM

Subscription fees to get more improved maps that will enhance the performance of your car further do not exactly sound unreasonable depending on the cost.

sflgator · 05-17-2007, 10:59 AM

Well, Shiv has said that PROcede v2.0 will be free to all those who already have the PROcede; maybe firmware updates after that would require an additional nominal cost.

esquire · 05-31-2007, 03:50 AM

shiv. any updates on the release date for v2.0?

WAYNEBO · 05-31-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by G35revup

Subscription fees to get more improved maps that will enhance the performance of your car further do not exactly sound unreasonable depending on the cost.

I agree... I come from a software consulting background, and the general rule is upgrades after the dot in vX.X usually is free. Major version upgrades always incur costs, and Vishnu is more than generous with how they are taking care of their current loyal customers.

OpenFlash · 05-31-2007, 12:22 PM

Hi guys,
We had a little problem with updating software through the Radio Shack USB converter (that most people are using). So I just sent one off to our software engineer to get the bug fixed. No problem doing it through a standard serial port though. Once we get the fix, we'll start sending out updates to our beta folks

shiv

PresaMat · 05-31-2007, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Hi guys,
We had a little problem with updating software through the Radio Shack USB converter (that most people are using). So I just sent one off to our software engineer to get the bug fixed. No problem doing it through a standard serial port though. Once we get the fix, we'll start sending out updates to our beta folks

shiv

Shiv,
Im not using the radioshack USB adapter... im using one from Microcenter. I can upgrade maps fine. Will you need any further information to verify this works?

Mat

OpenFlash · 05-31-2007, 12:37 PM

Hi Mat,
There isn't a problem with updating maps with various USB converts. But there is a pretty strict form of error detection that we employ when updating firmware that is triggered with a few USB converts that we've tried. So that's what we're addressing right now.

shiv

PresaMat · 05-31-2007, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Hi Mat,
There isn't a problem with updating maps with various USB converts. But there is a pretty strict form of error detection that we employ when updating firmware that is triggered with a few USB converts that we've tried. So that's what we're addressing right now.

shiv

Thanks shiv. Another question. For ease of use I connected my adapter to the serial on the procede and leave it in the ecu box (a lot easier to plug a usb extention in then trying to fiddle with the serial connector). Is this acceptable/no known issues? Thanks again

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