Modified CDV or Clutch Stop?

woot335woot · 08-30-2011, 07:08 AM

So I ordered a modified CDV and it's been taking a few weeks to ship. In the mean time I came across this...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT

It's just a little stopper that helps eliminate all of the dead travel in the clutch pedal. I popped it in yesterday (took about 20 seconds) and drove off.

Impressions: shifts have become 100% smoother and WAYY shorter, I can't believe how much wasted time there is doing all of that extended travel with the clutch pedal. Honestly, I can't even feel the effects of the CDV anymore either, so now I'm thinking, do I even need to put the modified CDV on?

I think for the $17 I paid for that little stopper, which I could have easily made for probably less than $5, I really got my money's worth! I haven't really read a lot about these little stoppers and I'm surprised they don't get way more credit for how awesome they are. Anyone using both? and should I even waste my time getting under the car to put the modified CDV in?

secretsquirrel · 08-30-2011, 07:18 AM

How can you not feel the CDV when it controls shifter feel?

woot335woot · 08-30-2011, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by secretsquirrel

How can you not feel the CDV when it controls shifter feel?

HUH?

Because it has nothing to do with the "shifter"...the CDV controls the flow of hydraulic fluid to the clutch pedal, your shifter is connected to linkage that is connected to the transmission, no fluids involved there.

And since the travel of the clutch pedal has been significantly shortened with the stopper, it seems as if the effects of the CDV are not noticeable anymore.

zerep1 · 08-30-2011, 08:02 AM

as long as the clutch is fulling disengaging your fine

woot335woot · 08-30-2011, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by zerep1

as long as the clutch is fulling disengaging your fine

It seems to be...I don't hear or feel anything abnormal. I'm sure there would be some rubbing/grinding if the pressure plate wasn't completely disengaging the flywheel.

BMWsky · 08-30-2011, 08:59 AM

I have the same stopper installed as well, lots of folks on the forum do. It does help with the travel to a degree, but the CDV removal will still be felt. A lot of people have done both and got the best of both worlds. The CDV delete is my next move.

bkrM3 · 08-30-2011, 09:16 AM

Yes you still need to get rid of the CDV.

My car has both the clutch stop and modified CDV, you'll feel the difference

chicagob5 · 08-30-2011, 09:33 AM

i did both too,

very dramatic difference!

No way im going back to stock clutch stop

woot335woot · 08-30-2011, 10:25 AM

Thanks for the experience based opinions, that's what I was looking for!

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woot335woot First Lieutenant 33 Rep 358 Posts Drives: 2014 335i Xdrive Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ohio iTrader: (0)	Modified CDV or Clutch Stop? So I ordered a modified CDV and it's been taking a few weeks to ship. In the mean time I came across this... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT It's just a little stopper that helps eliminate all of the dead travel in the clutch pedal. I popped it in yesterday (took about 20 seconds) and drove off. Impressions: shifts have become 100% smoother and WAYY shorter, I can't believe how much wasted time there is doing all of that extended travel with the clutch pedal. Honestly, I can't even feel the effects of the CDV anymore either, so now I'm thinking, do I even need to put the modified CDV on? I think for the $17 I paid for that little stopper, which I could have easily made for probably less than $5, I really got my money's worth! I haven't really read a lot about these little stoppers and I'm surprised they don't get way more credit for how awesome they are. Anyone using both? and should I even waste my time getting under the car to put the modified CDV in?
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zerep1 Lieutenant 40 Rep 464 Posts Drives: 335i E90, 328i F30, 230i G42, Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tampa, Florida iTrader: (1)	as long as the clutch is fulling disengaging your fine
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BMWsky Major 27 Rep 1,244 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Webster NY iTrader: (1)	I have the same stopper installed as well, lots of folks on the forum do. It does help with the travel to a degree, but the CDV removal will still be felt. A lot of people have done both and got the best of both worlds. The CDV delete is my next move.
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bkrM3 Major 73 Rep 1,388 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Main Line iTrader: (9) Garage List 2009 BMW M3 [9.50]	Yes you still need to get rid of the CDV. My car has both the clutch stop and modified CDV, you'll feel the difference __________________ E90 M3 Space/Fox/6MT E92 335i BSM/Saddle/6MT - Sold
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