[scottp999]

Can M3 or M5 be used with a methanol injection kit?

"I'd use regular methanol like VP's M1 for the injection. This is what I personally use. All you are using the injection for is to cool the air charge. This is how you get more power, because you can add more timing or boost with a cooler charge. M3 has a hydrocarbon in it and won't pull the heat like M1. M5 has a hydrocarbon and a combustion additive. I would definitely not use this. It could have bad results by combusting in the air inlet tube between the turbo and the throttle body. M1 is your best choice."

http://www.vpracingfuels.com/index.h...estion&ID=1997

[Chefcg1]

80/20 M1 and distilled H2O

[N54_Fan]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Pretty much. De-ionized is actually more pure water so you're good

Mike

Sorry but I am pretty damn sure you are incorrect about this.

Deionized water is typically filtered (all ionically charged particles are removed) to be cleaned of all impurities to a certain level of purity based on the filters used in the process. However it is possible to have contaminants like tiny bacteria that do not show an ionic charge and therefore make it through the filter.

Distilled water is just that,...distilled by heating and essentially evaporating nothing but pure water and then collecting the evaporate in a collecting chamber or tube that allows the fluid to collect separated from all impurities.

That is why DISTILLED water is generally considered the most pure form of water. However,....whether this makes much difference in our engines is a different story. I do NOT know the answer to that but would assume DISTILLED is the recommended water to use to dilute your Methanol.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

I'll be honest I've used Poland Springs before

[plague]

Originally Posted by Jeff@topgearsolutions

I'll be honest I've used Poland Springs before

HAHAHA yes..

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by N54_Fan

Sorry but I am pretty damn sure you are incorrect about this.

Deionized water is typically filtered (all ionically charged particles are removed) to be cleaned of all impurities to a certain level of purity based on the filters used in the process. However it is possible to have contaminants like tiny bacteria that do not show an ionic charge and therefore make it through the filter.

Distilled water is just that,...distilled by heating and essentially evaporating nothing but pure water and then collecting the evaporate in a collecting chamber or tube that allows the fluid to collect separated from all impurities.

That is why DISTILLED water is generally considered the most pure form of water. However,....whether this makes much difference in our engines is a different story. I do NOT know the answer to that but would assume DISTILLED is the recommended water to use to dilute your Methanol.

You are right an wrong De-ionization is the final step in water purification, so usually water is passed through 2 sediment filters (5um or even 2um) followed by a carbon block, followed by a reverse osmosis membrane, and then finally through a 2 stage DI cartridge.

Nobody puts water straight into a DI bed as it would soil within minutes. Commercial dionized water is 100% pure water and thats what is used for all sensitive laboratory work.

In reality the distinction for our purposes is moot and either works fine mixed with meth.

Mike

[Irishace]

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/meth...e-378-l/912218

I am running this currently with de-ionized water, mixture 90/10. I am moving to running this pure with no water, I want as much octane supplement as possible. Since I have moved to a stronger meth mixture I have noticed my timing pickup considerabley.

[FirstBMWLA]

Originally Posted by Irishace

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/meth...e-378-l/912218

I am running this currently with de-ionized water, mixture 90/10. I am moving to running this pure with no water, I want as much octane supplement as possible. Since I have moved to a stronger meth mixture I have noticed my timing pickup considerabley.

Think thats only available in Canada.

Just found a hotrod shop near me in Tucson that has methanol for $3.60/gal. Maybe it's time I join the methheads.

[Chrisred]

Can we run 100% meth?? How long can we keep it inside??? Do we have to clean lines every so often??
What about ethanol?? Heard some guys use it in these kits

[Irishace]

Originally Posted by FirstBMWLA

Think thats only available in Canada.

That's really unfortunate. I guess we are lucky north of the border. This stuff is so economical and delivers incredible results.

[Asofi]

Originally Posted by Willizm

what type of meth are you using? Where did you get it? Reason I ask is that I hear you should get something as pure as possible such as the M1 or denatured alky. This way you aren't getting something that has additives.

What's the difference in performance between meth and denatured alcohol?

Does the JB4 and Procede automatically adjust parameters depending on the percent mix you put in (50/50, 75/25, 100%, etc.) ?

[Elie335i]

110% alcohol

[Asofi]

Will this work?

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053

[Tzu]

After seeing what would happen after switching to Shell 91oct with meth, my timing is terrible. When I ran 50/50 with 94oct, I was 11+ degrees through the whole run with no drops. I just tried 65/35, 75/25, 80/20 with 91oct and my timing still has drops.

Are all you guys running 94oct?

[ttbmer]

I'm running 50/50 mix and 100oct 18.5 max boost. Will log tmrw. VP M1 meth/distilled water. Wanna move to a 70/30 mix bit not sure how long that can seat on my WW tank as I don't really drive my car and when I do drive it pretty much to look for beef hehehehe.

[Ilma]

Originally Posted by Tzu

After seeing what would happen after switching to Shell 91oct with meth, my timing is terrible. When I ran 50/50 with 94oct, I was 11+ degrees through the whole run with no drops. I just tried 65/35, 75/30, 80/20 with 91oct and my timing still has drops.

Are all you guys running 94oct?

I just tried Shell 91 with an 80/20 meth mix last week and had smooth timing curves......just a few degrees lower at throttle onset compared to 94 Octane but sat around 10 degrees for the remainder of a 3-4th pull.

94 does feel perkier at part throttle though.

[Tzu]

Yea my car is a DD. Mon-Fri I run map 0, so 94 octane would be a waste. Too much meth in those lines for too long and theyll become brittle though so I'm trying to find a medium.

[Big Tom]

80/20 Ethanol mixed with Tap Water.

[Chrisred]

Originally Posted by Big Tom

80/20 Ethanol mixed with Tap Water.

Heard of someone using 60/40 meth/ethanol. But was advised to use only for one day then remove. But I wasn't brave enough to try it lol

[Tzu]

I'm beginning to think it's my gas station. I'll try another location and if it doesn't alleviate the issue, then I'm officially out of ideas.

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by Tzu

I'm beginning to think it's my gas station. I'll try another location and if it doesn't alleviate the issue, then I'm officially out of ideas.

Why stop using the Ultra94.. Its great gas and the only thing I put in my car, with my meth

Mike

[Tzu]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Why stop using the Ultra94.. Its great gas and the only thing I put in my car, with my meth

Mike

Everyone said meth was so great that it eliminated the need for 94. Just a little taste they said. Thats how they get you.