logged my run,,,can some1 show me what means what

longliven54 · 09-19-2011, 11:40 PM

i logged my car for the first time.
i am currently running jb4 map 5
stock airbox with Mr.5 diy
aftermarket pipes w/stock muffler
i just installed snow performace stage 3 yesterday, and am not 100% sure if its working or not
this is the first time i have logged my car, and i am not sure what i am looking for. any information you can point me to would be great
thanks all
cheers

themyst · 09-20-2011, 12:02 AM

Your meth isn't working, your running far too little boost for meth, and you need to log ignition and meth flow (assuming you have a flow sensor) for us to offer any meaningful advice. I would test spray the meth kit to ensure it's functioning properly.

Trust me, if your meth setup is working properly, you'll know.

longliven54 · 09-20-2011, 12:12 AM

this any good now?

themyst · 09-20-2011, 12:34 AM

Yep my first response was accurate. Check your meth installation again. IATs should flatline or go down, not up if meth is working.

Dr. G · 09-20-2011, 12:42 AM

Your meth most definitely isn't working, double check everything.

longliven54 · 09-20-2011, 12:42 AM

grrrr,,,how do i test if it is working or not....doesnt it start spraying only after certain psi?? I can lower it down to 1 psi to start spraying, and rev the motor,,would that help me test, or is there any other way of testing?

themyst · 09-20-2011, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by longliven54

grrrr,,,how do i test if it is working or not....doesnt it start spraying only after certain psi?? I can lower it down to 1 psi to start spraying, and rev the motor,,would that help me test, or is there any other way of testing?

If you have a stage 3, it should come with a module of some sort where u can enable a test spray. I have a basic kit, so I can't really help you there. I just tap the power wire to the trigger and I can test spray like that.

longliven54 · 09-20-2011, 12:52 AM

ill try and figure this out.i thought the most diff part was going to be install. that went smoothly,apprarently not as smoothly and accurately as i thought it did.

themyst · 09-20-2011, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by longliven54

ill try and figure this out.i thought the most diff part was going to be install. that went smoothly,apprarently not as smoothly and accurately as i thought it did.

Your meth kit is flat out not working. Once you get that straightened out, the rest is easy. Set Meth additive=40 (assuming you have a failsafe), set to map 3, and have fun!

You WILL know when meth is working. Trust me!

Bash · 09-20-2011, 01:53 AM

What octane are you running? I know this is not on par with the subject but im just wondering, funny how timing drops are everywhere with the JB4 when not using meth or CPS. Whats also funny is that few months ago they claimed that CPS is BS..lol

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 09-20-2011, 07:38 AM

Setting up meth injection for the JB4 requires you to feed the 0-5v flow sensor signal in to pin 15, log meth, then enter the highest value as your meth flow max, etc. You can review them on BMS' forum.

Mike

badass335 · 09-20-2011, 10:27 AM

Just to ensure that the install went smooth of the meth kit, what I did was undo the line that goes to the main nozzle and put it in a bucket. Drop the boost setting on the meth controller to 1 psi from min and max. Unplug the boost line that goes to meth controller and blow into it with car ignition on only. This will power your pump, safe injection and first solenoid. If fluid flows, then install is good. You can do the same to the power nozzle to test.

Once you verify both nozzles are working, then you need to verify if the wiring into JB4 is correct.

badass335 · 09-20-2011, 10:32 AM

Also, what are your settings for the meth controller? On the first nozzle, run 6psi min and 10psi max. On power id run 10psi min and 15psi max. After you log your car, you can adjust the settings.

If your on the mainland, call me and I can help you test this out.

longliven54 · 09-20-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bash

What octane are you running? I know this is not on par with the subject but im just wondering, funny how timing drops are everywhere with the JB4 when not using meth or CPS. Whats also funny is that few months ago they claimed that CPS is BS..lol

Running crappy 91 oct,, meth will take care of the drops once I figure it all out

longliven54 · 09-20-2011, 10:38 PM

todays run: temps were around 20 degrees Celsius. IAT stay the same, and compared to logs from yesterday(yesterday was around 14 degrees celsius)...
some1 mentioned that had plenty timing drops. which graph do you read to see that? educate a noob brotha..cheers

PlutoniumTans · 09-20-2011, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by longliven54

todays run

Are you running a flow sensor ? SAFEINJECTION BOX ? can you click meth button on the log and display the flow ?

longliven54 · 09-20-2011, 10:47 PM

updated with meth

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 09-21-2011, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by longliven54

updated with meth

The meth signal is mapped from 0-100% = 0-2000ml/min using the .1v per 100ml/min calibration I believe the Snow sensor uses. So you still have some problem there. Also add ignition to each log. Drops here and there are not harmful but indicate the car is running on the aggressive side for the octane. If you are seeing multiple drops per gear, etc, it's a good indicator that you need to lower your boost or lower the DME's upper advance limiter using CPS.

Mike

Bash · 09-21-2011, 08:02 AM

you need to include Ign Adv in all your logs
by the looks of IAT something is begining to work

themyst · 09-21-2011, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bash

you need to include Ign Adv in all your logs
by the looks of IAT something is begining to work

+1 looks like it's working. Please add ignition advance to your logs to confirm. If you have a snow stage 3, you should have a failsafe.

09-19-2011, 11:40 PM	#1
longliven54 Lieutenant 15 Rep 455 Posts Drives: 2007 335i e90 auto Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: victoria iTrader: (6)	logged my run,,,can some1 show me what means what i logged my car for the first time. i am currently running jb4 map 5 stock airbox with Mr.5 diy aftermarket pipes w/stock muffler i just installed snow performace stage 3 yesterday, and am not 100% sure if its working or not this is the first time i have logged my car, and i am not sure what i am looking for. any information you can point me to would be great thanks all cheers Attached Images __________________ JB4 G5 / VRSF IC / STETT CAI / GREDDY / custom exhaust / iRotora cross drilled rotots / snow stage 3 meth / 19" iForged senekas / upgraded speakers n CF woofer box / M3 bits/ DINAN camber plates/ KONI/ megan racing toe arm/ supreme power lowering perch
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themyst Major General 192 Rep 6,631 Posts Drives: '16 MK7 GTI Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (8)	Your meth isn't working, your running far too little boost for meth, and you need to log ignition and meth flow (assuming you have a flow sensor) for us to offer any meaningful advice. I would test spray the meth kit to ensure it's functioning properly. Trust me, if your meth setup is working properly, you'll know. __________________ E90 LCI N54 6AT
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longliven54 Lieutenant 15 Rep 455 Posts Drives: 2007 335i e90 auto Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: victoria iTrader: (6)	this any good now? Attached Images __________________ JB4 G5 / VRSF IC / STETT CAI / GREDDY / custom exhaust / iRotora cross drilled rotots / snow stage 3 meth / 19" iForged senekas / upgraded speakers n CF woofer box / M3 bits/ DINAN camber plates/ KONI/ megan racing toe arm/ supreme power lowering perch
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themyst Major General 192 Rep 6,631 Posts Drives: '16 MK7 GTI Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (8)	Yep my first response was accurate. Check your meth installation again. IATs should flatline or go down, not up if meth is working. __________________ E90 LCI N54 6AT
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longliven54 Lieutenant 15 Rep 455 Posts Drives: 2007 335i e90 auto Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: victoria iTrader: (6)	ill try and figure this out.i thought the most diff part was going to be install. that went smoothly,apprarently not as smoothly and accurately as i thought it did. __________________ JB4 G5 / VRSF IC / STETT CAI / GREDDY / custom exhaust / iRotora cross drilled rotots / snow stage 3 meth / 19" iForged senekas / upgraded speakers n CF woofer box / M3 bits/ DINAN camber plates/ KONI/ megan racing toe arm/ supreme power lowering perch
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Bash First Lieutenant 8 Rep 395 Posts Drives: E92-335i Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Beirut iTrader: (0)	What octane are you running? I know this is not on par with the subject but im just wondering, funny how timing drops are everywhere with the JB4 when not using meth or CPS. Whats also funny is that few months ago they claimed that CPS is BS..lol __________________ COBB S2+ - Mr.5 CAI, Catless DP, Catless MP, AMS FMIC.
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Mike@N54Tuning.com Joint Chiefs of Staff 5100 Rep 116,225 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: N54tuning.com iTrader: (89)	Setting up meth injection for the JB4 requires you to feed the 0-5v flow sensor signal in to pin 15, log meth, then enter the highest value as your meth flow max, etc. You can review them on BMS' forum. Mike
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badass335 Lieutenant Colonel 119 Rep 1,948 Posts Drives: 2017 540i Xdrive Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Surrey, BC iTrader: (10)	Just to ensure that the install went smooth of the meth kit, what I did was undo the line that goes to the main nozzle and put it in a bucket. Drop the boost setting on the meth controller to 1 psi from min and max. Unplug the boost line that goes to meth controller and blow into it with car ignition on only. This will power your pump, safe injection and first solenoid. If fluid flows, then install is good. You can do the same to the power nozzle to test. Once you verify both nozzles are working, then you need to verify if the wiring into JB4 is correct.
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badass335 Lieutenant Colonel 119 Rep 1,948 Posts Drives: 2017 540i Xdrive Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Surrey, BC iTrader: (10)	Also, what are your settings for the meth controller? On the first nozzle, run 6psi min and 10psi max. On power id run 10psi min and 15psi max. After you log your car, you can adjust the settings. If your on the mainland, call me and I can help you test this out.
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longliven54 Lieutenant 15 Rep 455 Posts Drives: 2007 335i e90 auto Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: victoria iTrader: (6)	todays run: temps were around 20 degrees Celsius. IAT stay the same, and compared to logs from yesterday(yesterday was around 14 degrees celsius)... some1 mentioned that had plenty timing drops. which graph do you read to see that? educate a noob brotha..cheers Attached Images __________________ JB4 G5 / VRSF IC / STETT CAI / GREDDY / custom exhaust / iRotora cross drilled rotots / snow stage 3 meth / 19" iForged senekas / upgraded speakers n CF woofer box / M3 bits/ DINAN camber plates/ KONI/ megan racing toe arm/ supreme power lowering perch Last edited by longliven54; 09-20-2011 at 10:44 PM.. Reason: adding more information
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Bash First Lieutenant 8 Rep 395 Posts Drives: E92-335i Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Beirut iTrader: (0)	you need to include Ign Adv in all your logs by the looks of IAT something is begining to work __________________ COBB S2+ - Mr.5 CAI, Catless DP, Catless MP, AMS FMIC.
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