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      09-25-2011, 10:08 PM   #1
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Procede and COBB?

Is it possible to use the procede just for gauge control along with the COBB tune?
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      09-25-2011, 10:09 PM   #2
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it's possible with jb4 on map 4 not sure about procede.
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You mean maybe set PROCede to map 0 then flash it? Interesting idea, but honestly I'd be afraid human error will one day result in you really stacking the tunes and ruining your day pretty bad.

Interested though how the market shifts on this platform. And we guys never seem to have enough. Next time am buying the Turbo M3, so I don't get bitten by mod bug again. Better to pay for full factory package than constantly bleed money jumping on every new thing that pops up. I have almost all tunes now and I'd be lying if I told you I am not interested in sampling Cobb. My car already faster than I have any use for, and I rarely use half the potential, but I still want more, more, more
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Stacking tunes is a bad decision. Invest in a mechanical boost gauge / digital readout instead.
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I don't know and I'm curious. You would not run in map0 though, but map1. At first set boost similar to Cobb tune, set OL mapping to stock (so 0 across the table), AFR to 50, IC 0, log and evaluate. You probably would not be able to log with Cobb, but have to use procede instead. Someone do it and report. If everything looks good, then you can start playing with ignition and boost... even lowering boost and increasing IC if you wanted. You'd never had to touch AFR, but potentially a little open loop fueling adjustment. Do it Do it!

EDIT: forgot to mention meth, you could keep stock (Cobb) tune for map1, or even make it more conservative if you wanted. do it
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Stacking tunes is a bad decision. Invest in a mechanical boost gauge / digital readout instead.
I wouldnt be "stacking tunes" I just want the guage functionality.
I do not want an external gauge.
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That's interesting... expensive to just read guages... are you planning on custom tuning the COBB or something?

Best bet it so call Shiv and see if he can hook you up with something... might even be able to get something cheaper than the full PROcede since you're not really looking for functionality...
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You mean maybe set PROCede to map 0 then flash it? Interesting idea, but honestly I'd be afraid human error will one day result in you really stacking the tunes and ruining your day pretty bad.

Interested though how the market shifts on this platform. And we guys never seem to have enough. Next time am buying the Turbo M3, so I don't get bitten by mod bug again. Better to pay for full factory package than constantly bleed money jumping on every new thing that pops up. I have almost all tunes now and I'd be lying if I told you I am not interested in sampling Cobb. My car already faster than I have any use for, and I rarely use half the potential, but I still want more, more, more
Is that sarcasm? You don't think a tri turbo M3 has some tuning potential?
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it should work, I'm using JB4 over ESS flash and everything is working fine.
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I don't know and I'm curious. You would not run in map0 though, but map1. At first set boost similar to Cobb tune, set OL mapping to stock (so 0 across the table), AFR to 50, IC 0, log and evaluate. You probably would not be able to log with Cobb, but have to use procede instead. Someone do it and report. If everything looks good, then you can start playing with ignition and boost... even lowering boost and increasing IC if you wanted. You'd never had to touch AFR, but potentially a little open loop fueling adjustment. Do it Do it!

EDIT: forgot to mention meth, you could keep stock (Cobb) tune for map1, or even make it more conservative if you wanted. do it
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if all you want is the in-dash gauges, that's an expensive route to take. would be cheaper to pick up a BMS can tool. that allows gauge hi-jacking and simply plugs into the obd-II port
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I don't know and I'm curious. You would not run in map0 though, but map1. At first set boost similar to Cobb tune, set OL mapping to stock (so 0 across the table), AFR to 50, IC 0, log and evaluate. You probably would not be able to log with Cobb, but have to use procede instead. Someone do it and report. If everything looks good, then you can start playing with ignition and boost... even lowering boost and increasing IC if you wanted. You'd never had to touch AFR, but potentially a little open loop fueling adjustment. Do it Do it!

EDIT: forgot to mention meth, you could keep stock (Cobb) tune for map1, or even make it more conservative if you wanted. do it
The only thing that might not work with that is Procede's direct boost control.

So you would probably get the Procede boost values instead of the Cobb's.

Could create some inconsistencies......but the rest sounds plausible.

The meth intergration would be the main motive here?
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Stacking tunes is a bad decision. Invest in a mechanical boost gauge / digital readout instead.
yup, and plus procede boost gauge reading is not accurate.
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The only thing that might not work with that is Procede's direct boost control.

So you would probably get the Procede boost values instead of the Cobb's.

Could create some inconsistencies......but the rest sounds plausible.

The meth intergration would be the main motive here?
yep, you'd definitely get procede boost, but this can be adjusted to a Cobb like curve. you won't target load anymore, but i think this is a plus... I know others disagree though. Shiv may not give any advise here, so someone has to pioneer this.
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