RB turbo's

E93Blackhawk · 10-09-2011, 11:23 AM

Hi there all

Just joined a few days ago, been surfing over e90 for a while now, some really good information here from the guys.

Quick question regarding rob beck's turbos.

First of all has anyone successfully used these, and drawbacks to them at all?

Heard a few people saying that having a meth kit without upgrading the turbo's is slightly pointless or vice versa? Any truth to this?

Thanks guys!

rader1 · 10-09-2011, 11:31 AM

I have no first hand experience of the RBs but everything ive seen suggests they are great mods, as are any of the upgraded turbos(ASR, Helix, TD, EPL etc)
Meth is a big help on almost any car regardless of mods, as long as the tune takes advantage of it

Dark9T · 10-09-2011, 11:35 AM

NOT Truth... Most of the people here with meth kit without upgrading the turbos,
Having a Meth kit without a Tune is pointless tho.

E93Blackhawk · 10-09-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark9T

NOT Truth... Most of the people here with meth kit without upgrading the turbos,
Having a Meth kit without a Tune is pointless tho.

Cheers buddy

I plan to get a custom map when i get my turbo's / meth anyway so take full advantage of them of course.

Has anyone got any turbo lag from upgrades in their car? Ive heard people conversing over increased turbo lag when upgrading?

Would this be solved with some hi flo downpipes which ive got anyway if there where to be a problem?

Dark9T · 10-09-2011, 11:56 AM

Just wait for the COBB ATR or ATP map come out for N54, i am sure most of the people with Cobb are waiting for it!! lolz
http://cobbtuning.com/info/?id=4872

E93Blackhawk · 10-09-2011, 03:25 PM

Anyone have any idea as to what further upgrades are needed for RB turbo upgrades.

Im aware of the actuators parts. Any further parts needed?

anonemouse · 10-09-2011, 03:32 PM

I'm running RBs, completely changes how the car drives, I've had no problems with them, very happy with their performance. In regards parts, Rob has a list of the various parts needed in a post on the other forum.

A.

E93Blackhawk · 10-09-2011, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by anonemouse

I'm running RBs, completely changes how the car drives, I've had no problems with them, very happy with their performance. In regards parts, Rob has a list of the various parts needed in a post on the other forum.

A.

Have you had any pre - post dyno runs with them? What do you think your bhp has increased by?

Do you have a link to where the extra parts list are?

Syndicategt · 10-09-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by E93Blackhawk

Anyone have any idea as to what further upgrades are needed for RB turbo upgrades.

Im aware of the actuators parts. Any further parts needed?

I would go FBO (full bolt on) meth before venturing into upgraded turbos. Price per HP is better and you can still push 18 psi out of stock turbos. Once stock turbos start to die go with upgraded turbos. That's just my $0.02, but if you have another $4000-$5000 to spend on-top of the other mods, go for it!

OpenFlash · 10-09-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by E93Blackhawk

Have you had any pre - post dyno runs with them? What do you think your bhp has increased by?

Do you have a link to where the extra parts list are?

This is his car: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=595607

Syndicategt · 10-09-2011, 03:45 PM

Sorry I can't edit on the iPhone app. As for other mods, it's highly recommended to get a LSD and other suspension mods too. All that power is a waste if you can't apply it to the road.

As for hardware parts... Rob has a spreadsheet of needed items. Roughly $200 for that and another $200 if you want to use new oil lines.

E93Blackhawk · 10-09-2011, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndicategt

I would go FBO (full bolt on) meth before venturing into upgraded turbos. Price per HP is better and you can still push 18 psi out of stock turbos. Once stock turbos start to die go with upgraded turbos. That's just my $0.02, but if you have another $4000-$5000 to spend on-top of the other mods, go for it!

Thanks bud,

Can you explain to me the difference between a FBO meth kit and other meth kits that aren't full bolt on?

Thanks for your patience, learning slowly

E93Blackhawk · 10-09-2011, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

This is his car: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=595607

478..... psh. I can run faster than that

on a serious note, those are very impressive figures.

E93Blackhawk · 10-09-2011, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndicategt

Sorry I can't edit on the iPhone app. As for other mods, it's highly recommended to get a LSD and other suspension mods too. All that power is a waste if you can't apply it to the road.

As for hardware parts... Rob has a spreadsheet of needed items. Roughly $200 for that and another $200 if you want to use new oil lines.

Also on a separate note apologies if this is in the wrong area.

But i noticed you have the aquamist HFS-3 kit and a BOV, do you have to use a re-circ hose to not get meth into the engine bay?

Syndicategt · 10-09-2011, 04:03 PM

BOV is closed at WOT when I'm spraying. I'm guessing a little residual meth might come out when I lift off the throttle but it would evaporate very fast. Nothing to worry about. I also saw your post about meth kits. Check out Aquamist since they are in the UK too.

E93Blackhawk · 10-09-2011, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndicategt

BOV is closed at WOT when I'm spraying. I'm guessing a little residual meth might come out when I lift off the throttle but it would evaporate very fast. Nothing to worry about. I also saw your post about meth kits. Check out Aquamist since they are in the UK too.

Presume that the Evo racewerks charge pipe fits fine with the aquamist system then?

If so i may look into them because of the comp ability with the HKS SSQV4

E93Blackhawk · 10-09-2011, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndicategt

BOV is closed at WOT when I'm spraying. I'm guessing a little residual meth might come out when I lift off the throttle but it would evaporate very fast. Nothing to worry about. I also saw your post about meth kits. Check out Aquamist since they are in the UK too.

Have you had any dyno runs with your mods? My setup will be something quite similar to yours and just wondering what i can expect.

Syndicategt · 10-09-2011, 04:15 PM

Yes it will work with both. It might be easier for you to get the V5 shivs pwm meth kit , no fussing around and easy install. I believe his CP fits a bov too.

E93Blackhawk · 10-09-2011, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndicategt

Yes it will work with both. It might be easier for you to get the V5 shivs pwm meth kit , no fussing around and easy install. I believe his CP fits a bov too.

Im getting a PROcede anyway, so probably for a few reasons ill go with their meth kit as its got good reviews.

I think Shiv said that he's not sure if any BOV will fit, but he said Forge's DV will.

Shame really because I'm looking for that sexy HKS swooshing noise which i won't get.

10-09-2011, 11:23 AM	#1
E93Blackhawk First Lieutenant 32 Rep 344 Posts Drives: 2008 335i M sport Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: London iTrader: (0)	RB turbo's - good? Hi there all Just joined a few days ago, been surfing over e90 for a while now, some really good information here from the guys. Quick question regarding rob beck's turbos. First of all has anyone successfully used these, and drawbacks to them at all? Heard a few people saying that having a meth kit without upgrading the turbo's is slightly pointless or vice versa? Any truth to this? Thanks guys!
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10-09-2011, 11:31 AM	#2
rader1 Banned 70 Rep 2,197 Posts Drives: Cobb Stage 2+ 135i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Roanoke, VA iTrader: (0)	I have no first hand experience of the RBs but everything ive seen suggests they are great mods, as are any of the upgraded turbos(ASR, Helix, TD, EPL etc) Meth is a big help on almost any car regardless of mods, as long as the tune takes advantage of it
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10-09-2011, 11:35 AM	#3
Dark9T Captain 26 Rep 660 Posts Drives: 2010 Red 335i E92 AT Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: las vegas iTrader: (0)	NOT Truth... Most of the people here with meth kit without upgrading the turbos, Having a Meth kit without a Tune is pointless tho. __________________ PROcede REV3+OpenFlash "Custom DynoTune" //Vishnu PWM Meth kit//AIS Meth Tank//18" Forgestar F14//BridgeStone RE11//WaveTrac LSD n M3 Bushing// KW V3 Coilovers//ETS 6.25" FMIC//MS Ceramic Coated 3" DPs//aFe DCI//M3 style body kits//HPF GEN2 Exhaust//Performance CF Trunk Lip//FFTEC walbro 450 inline pump kit//
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Dark9T Captain 26 Rep 660 Posts Drives: 2010 Red 335i E92 AT Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: las vegas iTrader: (0)	Just wait for the COBB ATR or ATP map come out for N54, i am sure most of the people with Cobb are waiting for it!! lolz http://cobbtuning.com/info/?id=4872 __________________ PROcede REV3+OpenFlash "Custom DynoTune" //Vishnu PWM Meth kit//AIS Meth Tank//18" Forgestar F14//BridgeStone RE11//WaveTrac LSD n M3 Bushing// KW V3 Coilovers//ETS 6.25" FMIC//MS Ceramic Coated 3" DPs//aFe DCI//M3 style body kits//HPF GEN2 Exhaust//Performance CF Trunk Lip//FFTEC walbro 450 inline pump kit//
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10-09-2011, 03:25 PM	#6
E93Blackhawk First Lieutenant 32 Rep 344 Posts Drives: 2008 335i M sport Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: London iTrader: (0)	Anyone have any idea as to what further upgrades are needed for RB turbo upgrades. Im aware of the actuators parts. Any further parts needed?
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anonemouse Private First Class 16 Rep 159 Posts Drives: Santorini Blue F80 M3 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	I'm running RBs, completely changes how the car drives, I've had no problems with them, very happy with their performance. In regards parts, Rob has a list of the various parts needed in a post on the other forum. A.
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Syndicategt Brigadier General 164 Rep 3,730 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Nor Cal iTrader: (11)	Sorry I can't edit on the iPhone app. As for other mods, it's highly recommended to get a LSD and other suspension mods too. All that power is a waste if you can't apply it to the road. As for hardware parts... Rob has a spreadsheet of needed items. Roughly $200 for that and another $200 if you want to use new oil lines. __________________ 2008 BMW 335i e90 - Sold - Rob Beck Turbos / PROcede V5 / Aquamist HFS-4 / AR Downpipes / AE Exhaust / ER Comp FMIC / ER CP / TiAL BOV / Custom Intake / RPI Scoops / Quaife LSD / Swift-Koni Coilovers / DSS HS / Morr VS8.2 Sig Black / Michelin PSS / P3 Boost Guage / M3 body / M3 steering wheel / Adam's Rotors / Hawk HPS / SS lines /
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Syndicategt Brigadier General 164 Rep 3,730 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Nor Cal iTrader: (11)	BOV is closed at WOT when I'm spraying. I'm guessing a little residual meth might come out when I lift off the throttle but it would evaporate very fast. Nothing to worry about. I also saw your post about meth kits. Check out Aquamist since they are in the UK too. __________________ 2008 BMW 335i e90 - Sold - Rob Beck Turbos / PROcede V5 / Aquamist HFS-4 / AR Downpipes / AE Exhaust / ER Comp FMIC / ER CP / TiAL BOV / Custom Intake / RPI Scoops / Quaife LSD / Swift-Koni Coilovers / DSS HS / Morr VS8.2 Sig Black / Michelin PSS / P3 Boost Guage / M3 body / M3 steering wheel / Adam's Rotors / Hawk HPS / SS lines /
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Syndicategt Brigadier General 164 Rep 3,730 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Nor Cal iTrader: (11)	Yes it will work with both. It might be easier for you to get the V5 shivs pwm meth kit , no fussing around and easy install. I believe his CP fits a bov too. __________________ 2008 BMW 335i e90 - Sold - Rob Beck Turbos / PROcede V5 / Aquamist HFS-4 / AR Downpipes / AE Exhaust / ER Comp FMIC / ER CP / TiAL BOV / Custom Intake / RPI Scoops / Quaife LSD / Swift-Koni Coilovers / DSS HS / Morr VS8.2 Sig Black / Michelin PSS / P3 Boost Guage / M3 body / M3 steering wheel / Adam's Rotors / Hawk HPS / SS lines /
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