Protect and Seal

m33porsche · 06-02-2007, 11:46 AM

I collected my E92 335i on Friday and planned to give it a quick wax just to finish it off.

Most of the car was fine, ie smooth surface, but the bonnet and front wings felt really coarse when running a finger over the paint surface.

Given that protect and seal is supposed to remove embedded dirt prior to the seal treatment I really wonder whether the dealer did anything at all.

I had to resort to elbow grease with a polish to remove the impurities that looked like lots of tiny orange flecks, just about the size of small tar spots. The surface of the polishing cloth was stained lightly orange by whatever the substance was - strange.

Eventually got to the stage where I was happy to apply wax an now got the finish I thought I paid for - wouldn't recommend it to anyone considering getting the £299 treatment.

Anyway - love the car - the colour is amazing, dark blue to light blue and everything in between.

pic attached - before my detailing frenzy

- Paul - · 06-02-2007, 11:50 AM

Rail dust??? The car may have been on a train at some time and picked this up.

COLSEN · 06-04-2007, 04:01 PM

I decided not to go for this option as someone I know (I won't name him) works for AutoGlym and said he can get me most of the stuff for AutoGlym Lifeshine (which is what they used before Protect & Seal) He told me that if I bought the cloths from Ebay he could get me some left over polish/wax/etc, so I checked Ebay and found a whole AutoGlym Life shine kit and won it for £8!
I'll wack it on and upload some pics when it's done - this may be a cheaper alternative, not too sure of the outcome as yet though

chrisbin · 06-08-2007, 07:32 AM

Interestingly, my "about to be new car" is being detailed as I post (see other thread) and the chap doing it has commented that the bonnet and front wings were a bit dull whilst rest of car was fine.......wonder why this is.....

rjs · 06-08-2007, 08:26 AM

Good colour choice

car looks great!

330cdsport · 06-08-2007, 08:26 AM

This is unusual becoz when i give my car its first wash and a coat of polish, the bonnet did not have that same smooth polished feel afterwards - The polishing cloth did not just flow over it like it did on the rest of the panels????
The bonnet looks fine but just has more resistance to its surface. Very strange!!!

chrisbin · 06-11-2007, 06:07 AM

Comment from my "detailer" was that prior to treatment, the car was prepped very well - best he's seen from a dealer. However, talking to the guys there, he reckons the materials used for the P&S treatment are nothing special at all......

06-02-2007, 11:46 AM	#1
m33porsche Private First Class 31 Rep 181 Posts Drives: Porsche 997 C2S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hampshire UK iTrader: (0)	Protect and Seal - Questionable Value I collected my E92 335i on Friday and planned to give it a quick wax just to finish it off. Most of the car was fine, ie smooth surface, but the bonnet and front wings felt really coarse when running a finger over the paint surface. Given that protect and seal is supposed to remove embedded dirt prior to the seal treatment I really wonder whether the dealer did anything at all. I had to resort to elbow grease with a polish to remove the impurities that looked like lots of tiny orange flecks, just about the size of small tar spots. The surface of the polishing cloth was stained lightly orange by whatever the substance was - strange. Eventually got to the stage where I was happy to apply wax an now got the finish I thought I paid for - wouldn't recommend it to anyone considering getting the £299 treatment. Anyway - love the car - the colour is amazing, dark blue to light blue and everything in between. pic attached - before my detailing frenzy Attached Images
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06-02-2007, 11:50 AM	#2
- Paul - Major General 752 Rep 7,308 Posts Drives: see above. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Yorkshire, UK iTrader: (5) Garage List 2005 320D SE [10.00] 2005 645 [9.00]	Rail dust??? The car may have been on a train at some time and picked this up. __________________ My Photos
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06-04-2007, 04:01 PM	#3
COLSEN Second Lieutenant 15 Rep 269 Posts Drives: E92 320i MSport > Merc C220CDI Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North West England iTrader: (0)	I decided not to go for this option as someone I know (I won't name him) works for AutoGlym and said he can get me most of the stuff for AutoGlym Lifeshine (which is what they used before Protect & Seal) He told me that if I bought the cloths from Ebay he could get me some left over polish/wax/etc, so I checked Ebay and found a whole AutoGlym Life shine kit and won it for £8! I'll wack it on and upload some pics when it's done - this may be a cheaper alternative, not too sure of the outcome as yet though __________________ Sweeeeet
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06-08-2007, 07:32 AM	#4
chrisbin Colonel 115 Rep 2,333 Posts Drives: 640i MSport Coupe Join Date: May 2005 Location: S.Wales, UK iTrader: (1)	Interestingly, my "about to be new car" is being detailed as I post (see other thread) and the chap doing it has commented that the bonnet and front wings were a bit dull whilst rest of car was fine.......wonder why this is..... __________________ Current: F13 640i MSport, e85 Z4 3.0i Previous - Alpina D3 BiTurbo E90 LCI Manual, 320d M Sport E92 Auto, 330i M Sport E92 courtesy of BMW UK....320i M Sport E92 Auto, 320d SE E90 Manual.
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06-08-2007, 08:26 AM	#5
rjs Major 35 Rep 1,281 Posts Drives: E93 M3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: UK (West Mids) iTrader: (0) Garage List '09 M3 (e93) [10.00]	Good colour choice car looks great! __________________ E93 M3 \| Azurite Black \| Extended Bamboo Leather \| Piano Black Trim \| 19" 220M Wheels \| Shadowline Trim \| Edition Grills M DCT \| HDD iDrive \| EDC \| Bluetooth \| Front & Rear PDC \| Heated Seats \| DAB Radio \| Hi-Fi Speakers \| USB Audio \| SmartTOP
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06-08-2007, 08:26 AM	#6
330cdsport Right Responsible 71 Rep 1,647 Posts Drives: AW F21 M135i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: N. Ireland iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 535d M Sport [0.00] 2007 E91 320 M Sport [0.00] 2007 E92 335d M Sport [0.00]	This is unusual becoz when i give my car its first wash and a coat of polish, the bonnet did not have that same smooth polished feel afterwards - The polishing cloth did not just flow over it like it did on the rest of the panels???? The bonnet looks fine but just has more resistance to its surface. Very strange!!! __________________ Last: 330cd Sport - Silver Grey, 335d M Sport Coupe, F10 535d M Sport. Current: AW F21 M135i, Coral Red, Pro Nav, Vis, HK, & Clunky Adaptive Suspension Current: F15 X5 XDrive 40d M Sport - Space Grey, lots of toys.
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06-11-2007, 06:07 AM	#7
chrisbin Colonel 115 Rep 2,333 Posts Drives: 640i MSport Coupe Join Date: May 2005 Location: S.Wales, UK iTrader: (1)	Comment from my "detailer" was that prior to treatment, the car was prepped very well - best he's seen from a dealer. However, talking to the guys there, he reckons the materials used for the P&S treatment are nothing special at all...... __________________ Current: F13 640i MSport, e85 Z4 3.0i Previous - Alpina D3 BiTurbo E90 LCI Manual, 320d M Sport E92 Auto, 330i M Sport E92 courtesy of BMW UK....320i M Sport E92 Auto, 320d SE E90 Manual.
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