Inheritance laws help

///Mandy · 10-18-2011, 12:10 PM

First off, as mentioned numerous times above, get a lawyer.
Secondly, if you hold title with your father as "joint tenancy", you will be the owner by way of survival for everything you hold this title to.

But I strongly advise you to get a lawyer, this chick will find something.

Sara · 10-18-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MadDog

Do you know what "intestate" means? It means you don't have a will.

I just googled it and well damn I guess thats what I get for trying to help

Maestro · 10-18-2011, 12:18 PM

If anyone has any doubt how this could end up even when best lawyers are involved just look at Anna Nicole and her Billionaire hubby situation. When there is money involved all the legal contracts and pre-nup and stuff go right out the window since no judge or jury is going to deny a wife of those assets unless she is a total waste case or a criminal.

I am going to make a suggestion here, but I do not believe it is fool proof. The only way to ensure the new wife gets nothing is to transfer all assets to the son now, but he will have to pay all kind of taxes that is for sure since it not an inheritance, it would be considered a gift at that point. Even if this happen, her lawyers could probably argue that this was done to keep her from any of the assets she would otherwise gotten from the marriage.

BTW, you probably want this thread deleted since the new wife could find this later and use it to show the court your purpose was to defraud her in the first place.

I would look in the LLC idea for the income generating assets.

RedBarron · 10-18-2011, 01:58 PM

My father and I are sitting down with a lawyer next week. Going to get this taken care of. This is turning into a mess. My father is pretty old, as old as most peoples grandparents and I am in my mid twenties and this girl is younger than me, this is freaking insane.

My father recently screwed me out of 10k also, and refuses to give it back. This thought process is illogical and I think he is becoming senile and if they do get married I am going to see if I can declare a death bed marriage.

Seminole · 10-18-2011, 02:04 PM

I'm surprised nobody's asked for pics yet.

abisson · 10-18-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBarron

My father and I are sitting down with a lawyer next week. Going to get this taken care of. This is turning into a mess. My father is pretty old, as old as most peoples grandparents and I am in my mid twenties and this girl is younger than me, this is freaking insane.

My father recently screwed me out of 10k also, and refuses to give it back. This thought process is illogical and I think he is becoming senile and if they do get married I am going to see if I can declare a death bed marriage.

Your father is 60/70 +++, you are around 25.... and she is YOUNGER than you.

Holy F****.

txz4 · 10-18-2011, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by abisson

Your father is 60/70 +++, you are around 25.... and she is YOUNGER than you.

Holy F****.

LIKE A BOSS

MadDog · 10-18-2011, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBarron

My father and I are sitting down with a lawyer next week. Going to get this taken care of. This is turning into a mess. My father is pretty old, as old as most peoples grandparents and I am in my mid twenties and this girl is younger than me, this is freaking insane.

My father recently screwed me out of 10k also, and refuses to give it back. This thought process is illogical and I think he is becoming senile and if they do get married I am going to see if I can declare a death bed marriage.

Damn.

Bro, you're fucked.

Inspired · 10-18-2011, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Seminole

I'm surprised nobody's asked for pics yet.

just4kickz · 10-18-2011, 02:30 PM

rich people and their problems. haha goodluck... very interesting thread tho

jpsum · 10-18-2011, 02:33 PM

Not an attorney, but this is my understanding for this type of things from people I know and what they went through. So do not take this as an advice and use it for reference only.

If he has a living will, the court will assign his assets according to it. If he states that he wants you to receive 100% of his assets, then whatever is his (minus her half of whatever they own together) will be yours. That's not to say that she can't appeal to the court and ask for money from his estate. The outcome of that is usually determined by how the will is written and how long they have been together. If your Dad's Will specifically says not to give her anything, she will most likely get very little to none.

If he doesn't have a living will, you are pretty much screwed. She by default is entitled to most of his estate - minus anything he owes to the creditors.

The only safe bet here is that if your Dad and you own a property together now, your half will always be yours. The other half will be determined by the Will or the estate court if no living will was established.

Bumer · 10-18-2011, 03:00 PM

Why can't you just let your farther be happy, and marry young chick?
Everything cannot be centered around you, don't you think? He lived his life, worked hard, now let him live a little.

From the subject and tone of your post, it just seems that you're disconnected from your father. And may be it's your relationship with your farther that needs a fix, and not his relationship with young girl.

Maestro · 10-18-2011, 03:09 PM

hey let him enjoy the young girl, if you are successful at protecting the assets, boy she is going to be pissed once she finds out she been riding and old cock for nothing....lol

By way your dad did not screw you out of anything, it is his money and can do with it as he likes you may not like it but that is the reality of it.

Gregxi · 10-19-2011, 09:55 AM

Hire a PI
I bet she is fucking someone on the side, get pics and save your Dad and yourself a lot of time and trouble.

NYCGP · 10-19-2011, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bumer

Why can't you just let your farther be happy, and marry young chick?
Everything cannot be centered around you, don't you think? He lived his life, worked hard, now let him live a little.

From the subject and tone of your post, it just seems that you're disconnected from your father. And may be it's your relationship with your farther that needs a fix, and not his relationship with young girl.

Oh wait I get what you're saying.. Anna Nicole Smith deserved to be worth 450 million dollars because J. Howard Marshall just wanted to be happy. I hope you don't believe it's "ok" to let someone who isn't even blood into your family and allow them an equal share in the family's wealth based solely on how moist she is.

But maybe you're right, this girl probably worked that ass off to get OP's father to marry her. That hard work deserves some compensation, right? Or perhaps it is solely based on her undying love for a man who is "probably" twice her age (or close to it).

Bumer · 10-19-2011, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NYCGP

Oh wait I get what you're saying.. Anna Nicole Smith deserved to be worth 450 million dollars because J. Howard Marshall just wanted to be happy. I hope you don't believe it's "ok" to let someone who isn't even blood into your family and allow them an equal share in the family's wealth based solely on how moist she is.

But maybe you're right, this girl probably worked that ass off to get OP's father to marry her. That hard work deserves some compensation, right? Or perhaps it is solely based on her undying love for a man who is "probably" twice her age (or close to it).

Doesn't matter, it's not up to us or OP to decide.

I see it this way, no matter what young gal's intentions are, if she makes old man happy, so be it.

However, it's really f$cked up when stuff like that happens all people think about is money.

san~man · 10-19-2011, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by abisson

Your father is 60/70 +++, you are around 25.... and she is YOUNGER than you.

Holy F****.

That already points to "she's in it for the money."

abisson · 10-19-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bumer

Why can't you just let your farther be happy, and marry young chick?
Everything cannot be centered around you, don't you think? He lived his life, worked hard, now let him live a little.

From the subject and tone of your post, it just seems that you're disconnected from your father. And may be it's your relationship with your farther that needs a fix, and not his relationship with young girl.

I would have a hard time with my father too if he was marrying a chick younger than me..

Bumer · 10-19-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by abisson

I would have a hard time with my father too if he was marrying a chick younger than me..

No doubt about that, I'd have hard time too.

But, does that mean that father is not allowed to make his own decisions, and do whatever he wants?

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jpsum Major 286 Rep 1,088 Posts Drives: 2010 TSX Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Haven area iTrader: (4)	Not an attorney, but this is my understanding for this type of things from people I know and what they went through. So do not take this as an advice and use it for reference only. If he has a living will, the court will assign his assets according to it. If he states that he wants you to receive 100% of his assets, then whatever is his (minus her half of whatever they own together) will be yours. That's not to say that she can't appeal to the court and ask for money from his estate. The outcome of that is usually determined by how the will is written and how long they have been together. If your Dad's Will specifically says not to give her anything, she will most likely get very little to none. If he doesn't have a living will, you are pretty much screwed. She by default is entitled to most of his estate - minus anything he owes to the creditors. The only safe bet here is that if your Dad and you own a property together now, your half will always be yours. The other half will be determined by the Will or the estate court if no living will was established.
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Maestro Major 1060 Rep 1,268 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Sedan, 2021 X3 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0)	hey let him enjoy the young girl, if you are successful at protecting the assets, boy she is going to be pissed once she finds out she been riding and old cock for nothing....lol By way your dad did not screw you out of anything, it is his money and can do with it as he likes you may not like it but that is the reality of it. Last edited by Maestro; 10-19-2011 at 11:20 AM..
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