Strange boost waves?!?!? HELP!

MKE_M3 · 10-15-2011, 05:53 PM

Check out the strange boost waves in this log??!?! Any ideas? I'm running the latest Procede V5 Rev 2b Beta Auto tune maps (7-29) on map 1, target boost of 13.5.

cn555ic · 10-15-2011, 08:55 PM

Reload map and firmware and reset all the adaptations and reset the Procede...basically follow the read me file again...Log again and see what happens.

MKE_M3 · 10-15-2011, 10:24 PM

I was running the old 3/30 DIC maps and tried reloading them. The issue didn't go away, so I reloaded teh newest firmware and maps and I'm still having the problem. I have no other symptoms. No codes thrown. It had been running fine with solid logs for months. This issue started yesterday during a track day at Road America and has persisted.

geterdone · 10-16-2011, 02:09 AM

I am having similar issues with my JB4. I am running over 16psi on map one with ignition advance over 10 degrees. I shouldn't be running any higher than 13 psi on map 1. Terry said it could be my wastegates or boost solenoids, but my ecu psi is reading over 15 psi which would essentially cause throttle closure. Mods are DCI, JB4 running 91 octane and DA was 1200.

MKE_M3 · 10-16-2011, 08:10 AM

the only other variable, and I don't think this should have any effect, is that I have been running about 95 octane vs. my normal 93 (half tank of 98 at the track), but I don't think that should be any kind of problem.

MKE_M3 · 10-16-2011, 04:25 PM

has anyone had this problem (and hopefully been able to fix it?)

cn555ic · 10-16-2011, 06:17 PM

7-29 maps never worked right on my car...Wastege DC was all over the place..Try 7-11
maps and make sure you reset all the adaptations and Procede exactly like the read me file says. My duty cycles for some reason kept getting stuck at 36.2 at idle when it was suppose to be 60.2 I thought my wastegates were getting stuck so I went to lubricate the arm...Turned out it wasnt hardware but software! Go figure

MKE_M3 · 10-16-2011, 06:32 PM

I just changed to 7-11 and so far things are looking good. I don't have the logs on this computer, or I'd post it. I want to get a few more miles in before I totally call it a success, but I'm glad to not get 18 psi boost spikes any more.

MKE_M3 · 10-16-2011, 06:34 PM

I wonder if any of this has to do with the Waste gate adaptation that the procede does?!?!? Team Vishnu?

cn555ic · 10-16-2011, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jdemetry

I just changed to 7-11 and so far things are looking good. I don't have the logs on this computer, or I'd post it. I want to get a few more miles in before I totally call it a success, but I'm glad to not get 18 psi boost spikes any more.

Your car doesn't agree with the 7-29 maps trust me on this...I spent hours and hours to realize this with 3-30 DIC maps. Went as far as changing out my boost solenoid because of the clicking and the farting noise...Log it with the 7-11 maps and I am most definite sure you will see boost steady as a dead man's heartbeat

cn555ic · 10-16-2011, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdemetry

I wonder if any of this has to do with the Waste gate adaptation that the procede does?!?!? Team Vishnu?

Nothing to do with it as I resetted everything about 20 times with 7-29 maps and it just wouldnt work on my car...Have no idea why it works for some but for me it was a disaster.. Car would not boost right at all..Funny thing was I emailed Shiv on 9-10 about my issues with 7-29 maps and I never got a reply back about it.

golfrsi · 10-16-2011, 07:04 PM

I'm lost. Good luck bro!

geterdone · 10-17-2011, 01:51 AM

Me too.

ttbmer · 10-19-2011, 01:09 PM

My boost and target boost are fine, I'm now experiencing a lot of throttle closure during pulls. Is wierd. Car was running fine till yesterday I notice it.

NiVeDh · 10-19-2011, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

Nothing to do with it as I resetted everything about 20 times with 7-29 maps and it just wouldnt work on my car...Have no idea why it works for some but for me it was a disaster.. Car would not boost right at all..Funny thing was I emailed Shiv on 9-10 about my issues with 7-29 maps and I never got a reply back about it.

Same issue on my car with the 7-29 maps.

HGreen335 · 10-19-2011, 02:29 PM

im having the same issue but with jb4. I think it is my wastegates being too tight/loose. let me know if you find a solution.

joec500 · 10-19-2011, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NiVeDh

Same issue on my car with the 7-29 maps.

Yup...I had tons of issues with 7/29 maps. Gave my feedback to Shiv and went back to 5/29 maps. I have not tried the 7/11 maps

MKE_M3 · 10-19-2011, 05:59 PM

so far 7/11 maps look good. I spoke with Shiv and our best guess is that my wastegates were sticking due to high heat of running a little too much boost for my mods on such a high speed track. The problem persisted for quite a while after I got off the track (several hours) and went away the next day after loading 7/11 maps, but I didn't test/debug properly to really know what the problem was.

I'll need to do some more high speed stuff, but its unlikely Ill be able to replicate Road America on the streets without ending up in jail!!

If I do another track day with this car, I plan to only run 11psi and keep my fingers crossed

10-15-2011, 05:53 PM	#1
MKE_M3 Lieutenant Colonel 69 Rep 1,705 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI iTrader: (0)	Strange boost waves?!?!? HELP! Check out the strange boost waves in this log??!?! Any ideas? I'm running the latest Procede V5 Rev 2b Beta Auto tune maps (7-29) on map 1, target boost of 13.5. Attached Images __________________
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10-15-2011, 08:55 PM	#2
cn555ic 460 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	Reload map and firmware and reset all the adaptations and reset the Procede...basically follow the read me file again...Log again and see what happens.
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10-15-2011, 10:24 PM	#3
MKE_M3 Lieutenant Colonel 69 Rep 1,705 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI iTrader: (0)	I was running the old 3/30 DIC maps and tried reloading them. The issue didn't go away, so I reloaded teh newest firmware and maps and I'm still having the problem. I have no other symptoms. No codes thrown. It had been running fine with solid logs for months. This issue started yesterday during a track day at Road America and has persisted. __________________
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10-16-2011, 02:09 AM	#4
geterdone Private First Class 6 Rep 144 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Yukon, Oklahoma iTrader: (1)	I am having similar issues with my JB4. I am running over 16psi on map one with ignition advance over 10 degrees. I shouldn't be running any higher than 13 psi on map 1. Terry said it could be my wastegates or boost solenoids, but my ecu psi is reading over 15 psi which would essentially cause throttle closure. Mods are DCI, JB4 running 91 octane and DA was 1200.
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10-16-2011, 08:10 AM	#5
MKE_M3 Lieutenant Colonel 69 Rep 1,705 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI iTrader: (0)	the only other variable, and I don't think this should have any effect, is that I have been running about 95 octane vs. my normal 93 (half tank of 98 at the track), but I don't think that should be any kind of problem. __________________
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10-16-2011, 04:25 PM	#6
MKE_M3 Lieutenant Colonel 69 Rep 1,705 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI iTrader: (0)	has anyone had this problem (and hopefully been able to fix it?) __________________
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10-16-2011, 06:17 PM	#7
cn555ic 460 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	7-29 maps never worked right on my car...Wastege DC was all over the place..Try 7-11 maps and make sure you reset all the adaptations and Procede exactly like the read me file says. My duty cycles for some reason kept getting stuck at 36.2 at idle when it was suppose to be 60.2 I thought my wastegates were getting stuck so I went to lubricate the arm...Turned out it wasnt hardware but software! Go figure
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10-16-2011, 06:32 PM	#8
MKE_M3 Lieutenant Colonel 69 Rep 1,705 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI iTrader: (0)	I just changed to 7-11 and so far things are looking good. I don't have the logs on this computer, or I'd post it. I want to get a few more miles in before I totally call it a success, but I'm glad to not get 18 psi boost spikes any more. __________________
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10-16-2011, 06:34 PM	#9
MKE_M3 Lieutenant Colonel 69 Rep 1,705 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI iTrader: (0)	I wonder if any of this has to do with the Waste gate adaptation that the procede does?!?!? Team Vishnu? __________________
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10-16-2011, 07:04 PM	#12
golfrsi Enlisted Member 2 Rep 33 Posts Drives: e90 335i Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	I'm lost. Good luck bro!
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10-17-2011, 01:51 AM	#13
geterdone Private First Class 6 Rep 144 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Yukon, Oklahoma iTrader: (1)	Me too.
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10-19-2011, 01:09 PM	#14
ttbmer Lieutenant Colonel 70 Rep 1,943 Posts Drives: space gray on black 07 335i Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: las Vegas nv iTrader: (15)	My boost and target boost are fine, I'm now experiencing a lot of throttle closure during pulls. Is wierd. Car was running fine till yesterday I notice it. __________________ PROCEDE, PWM Vishnu Kit, AR catless DP, BMS DCI, Helix IC, P3 gauge, 25% window tint, mattblack window trim, mattblack roof wrapped. Vorstainer CSL trunk, CF wrapped interior, 18'' Forgestar F14 Matt black, quaife LSD, M3 suspension bits, Mtech front bumper). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8JIB8C8HDA
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10-19-2011, 02:29 PM	#16
HGreen335 Second Lieutenant 38 Rep 284 Posts Drives: N54 335i, S65 M3 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Florida iTrader: (0)	im having the same issue but with jb4. I think it is my wastegates being too tight/loose. let me know if you find a solution.
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10-19-2011, 05:59 PM	#18
MKE_M3 Lieutenant Colonel 69 Rep 1,705 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI iTrader: (0)	so far 7/11 maps look good. I spoke with Shiv and our best guess is that my wastegates were sticking due to high heat of running a little too much boost for my mods on such a high speed track. The problem persisted for quite a while after I got off the track (several hours) and went away the next day after loading 7/11 maps, but I didn't test/debug properly to really know what the problem was. I'll need to do some more high speed stuff, but its unlikely Ill be able to replicate Road America on the streets without ending up in jail!! If I do another track day with this car, I plan to only run 11psi and keep my fingers crossed __________________
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