[tibra1]

Originally Posted by Sparkplug

I see. I guess this would be your dream BMW then.

I have no idea why you think this would be my dream BMW or why u are name droppin piggies to me?

Do i live on the drag strip?

Read any of my posts, you would know that from day 1 ..I have been a staunch opponents of piggys..a re-flash..IMO will always be the better solution..but not one thats over priced, not propriatary and certainly not one that thru marketing and fear mongering.. presumes that every other tune and bolt-on but theirs will some how "damage" this car.

Hey but like others have said..if you want to spend ridiculous money like this..you know what?.. more power to Dinan, for getting you guys to ignore so many better options on the market and have you blindly follow them like sheep..baaaah!

[tibra1]

Originally Posted by Cynical

This arguement is mute.

Personally I've owned a Dinan 540i
Complete setup minus the S/C
every part from CAI, throttle body, suspension, exhuast, even floor mats.
Spent almost 8k
I absolutely loved my 5. Owned it for 6 years.
The Dinan parts made it a beast and truely a unique car.
That being said, I would never waste the money again.
Dinan slaps their name on other peoples parts. Sad but true.
Dinan exhaust ? Yea ok, look again inside- its a magnaflow with different guts.
Imagine that.

OP with all the money wasted on ur Dinan mods you could have bought both the CPo warranty and prob the aftermarket millenuim-
Still leaving you money for a JB4,IC, intake, downpipes and probably a few months car payment.

If longevity is your what crying out about and reliability Is what your claiming then well you need to do some research to further understand how an engine works. Its apparent you need to read up claiming any piggy back worse.

The rest of us who are informed are laughing to the bank running 17lbs of boost on a stock car and some race fuel.
(still with a full warranty)

A voice of reason not driven to the point of "Brand Loyality" madness..

[M4TW]

Originally Posted by Cynical

This arguement (sic) is mute (sic).

Perhaps you should listen to your 'voice of reason' and shut-up. I would have thought that you would be salivating over that pic I posted - he's had both cats removed! In case you didn't notice, your 'voice of reason' is a piggy proponent. Have you forgotten your tune bashing etiquette? Or is the enemy of your enemy, your voice of reason?

[tibra1]

I merely point out that here is one in your own camp who had Dinan..and is now not afraid to point out that there ARE equal or better options out there at a much more reasonable price point...I could careless who runs a piggy or reflash

The level of hostility from some here is incredible..its like u guys all seem to have this fragility going on where any critique of your beloved DINAN is met w all out confrontation and war.."Enemy this.. friend that"....its cool bro..enjoy ur DINAN..I dont what this thread to be the cause of an annuerism or smthg catastrophic like that..its really not that serious

[BQTuning]

Originally Posted by tibra1

I merely point out that here is one in your own camp who had Dinan..and is now not afraid to point out that there ARE equal or better options out there at a much more reasonable price point...I could careless who runs a piggy or reflash

I dont think any Dinan customer is attesting that their isnt any better options as in regards to of course power gains. There may be better options such as Cobb and GIAC as they give more power and cost less, from my perspective, as I do not believe in piggybacks.

Just about almost every manafacture gives some sort of warranty except for tuners. Why, why cant they back up their products with some sort of warranty ? If they had warranty do you think you would pay the current price ?

However, they give no guarantee on consequential damages. Why dont they if they are 100% confident in their tunes ?

If there is a tune I will go with it will be Cobb. The day I do I know within myself I am taking a risk, with Dinan the feeling of risk does not exist. When that time comes my car will be paid off for.

Every thread that I start about Dinan there is that one person(s) that high jack it with a negative view about cost vs performance. Its almost predictable. So do you blame us when we roar ?

[turb0mik3]

Originally Posted by BuraQ

Some question on your rant here. You do know that the Dinan tune was engineered to work with Dinan mods exclusively ?

There are those who get the Dinan stage 2 then go against the grain and start to chistmas tree their cars with non Dinan mods and end up with lower torque etc and horrible performance results.

I would agree that the problem that plagues the Dinan tune is their power band, it simply drops off to early compared to other tunes. Their reason for doing that is to reserve on the turbo life span and because of heating issues that already has plagued the 335i unless you have PPK.

Name me an after market tuner that can give you that type of warranty and protection ? There is none. In my book its money well spent.

The turbo issue is a good point, but I think running 16psi or so on the GIAC stage 2 w/ meth is pretty conservative when looking at other tunes.

Originally Posted by Sparkplug

Most Dinan guys own their cars rather than rent them (or are responsible leasers) so they tend to treat them with more respect. They can afford to pay more for a quality tune that's well engineered and strikes a good balance between performance, usability, and engine safety.

The reason that Dinan doesn't sell catless downpipes is that removing them is illegal and keeping their tunes and performance parts emissions legal is part of what they do.

When you drive a rental, don't give a crap about how the car is going to hold up after 3 years and don't mind committing warranty fraud, then Dinan isn't a good option for you.

Dinan cars are tuned so that they will perform well on the race track so heat management and durability are part of the equation. Building that dream 1/4 mile drag strip queen isn't the performance goal. So if you want a good drag strip car that's your business. Myself, I'd rather keep with the balanced, quality engineering theme, that BMW's are all about.

I actually purchased my car and believe that there are other ways in getting the most out of your car. Dinan has a fine warranty, yes, but I have also heard of other horror stories regarding that warranty. You could save money by NOT paying for a dinan name and purchasing essential products that make your car better.

Originally Posted by roundel335

You just don't get it - it's like we're talking and it's going in one of your ears and out the other. Try to grasp this concept - there are faster cars than say, an Aston-Martin Vantage V-12 or a Porsche GT2/GT3 that cost a whole lot less. But people buy the pricier ones and enjoy the superior engineering, refinement, and construction quality over other less expensive cars. Those folks, like us Dinan fans, have a different perspective, and we respect that of others. Why can't you respect ours and stop jacking our threads with your negative comments. You really aren't telling us anything we don't know, and you sure as hell aren't going to change our minds.

The only funny thing I can state is that GIAC tunes the most expensive cars on the market, such as Bentley's, Porsche, and other exotic models. I think I will trust their tune over Dinan's.

So don't get me wrong, Dinan is very capable, I would actually BUY some of their products if they weren't so damn expensive, haha.

[achien]

For those who says Dinan is expensive, I couldn't argue otherwise.

If I were to lease the car as most of you do, then I would go for the tune that gives me the most gain and the lowest price.

However, I don't lease my car and I plan to keep it for as long as possible. Hence, I don't want to compromise the longevity of the engine and its components with un-tested tunes. The biggest value from Dinan is not just the performance gains, but also peace of mind that it has perform some level of quality assurance and quality control (i.e. no CEL codes).

[tibra1]

Originally Posted by Mflowt5

The only funny thing I can state is that GIAC tunes the most expensive cars on the market, such as Bentley's, Porsche, and other exotic models. I think I will trust their tune over Dinan's.

It doesnt get safer than GIAC..they tested stg 2 for over 2 yrs to ensure no CEL or issues..and I can definitly attest to that..powerful yet refined w no issues

[Quisp]

"better tune" is a matter of what you want from your tune. If you want maxboost, crosss your fingers and hope he engine holds up power and have the money to pay for you own repairs then Dinan may not be for you. If you want power and also not have to worry about surpise expenses when you need 2 turbos replaced then Dinan might be what you want.
I have what I want and you have your tune, but for some reason you have some feeling of inadquacy that you need to push it on everyone. Most people on here researched thier tune choice before they got it so they know what they got into. If you want to do something positive then point out the good parts of your tune when somebody is asking, not put down a tune you dont have. Be like asking me what its like to have a baby. Dont know, so why would i give an opinion on it. I have the better tune for me, may not be for you , but who the f--k cares because it is my car(and why do you care so much?). So take your "better tune" and go be happy with yourself.