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Laney · 01-27-2012, 09:58 AM

Driving with different tyre patterns and depths also increases wear and tear on the differential.

Look at it this way:-
Can you drive with one eye closed?
Yes

Would you advise driving with one eye closed?
No

Mart1000 · 01-28-2012, 03:16 AM

Xenon to suggest that 4 channel abs will stop a car skidding or losing total control is complete bollocks.

Read my post again. I suggest that in certain situations it IS dangerous, and CAN be fatal depending on the circumstances.

m1bjr · 01-28-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mart1000

Regarding mix and match on the tyres you are right it will go through an MOT test for sure.

in the wet it can be fatal, not just a minor issue.

this has contributed to loads of accidents.

What is your source of data?
I would like to study it with a view to presenting it to GE Capital and LEX.

Thanks,
Steve

Mart1000 · 01-29-2012, 03:55 AM

Steve I'll PM you later. Just in after a night shift.

xenon · 01-30-2012, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mart1000

Xenon to suggest that 4 channel abs will stop a car skidding or losing total control is complete bollocks.

Read my post again. I suggest that in certain situations it IS dangerous, and CAN be fatal depending on the circumstances.

I suggest you re-read my post then as I said nothing of the sort. I said it will compensate for varying levels of grip on each wheel, which it does. You seemed to be suggesting that mixing tyres was bad because of differing grip but perhaps you mean something else so I'd be grateful if you would explain.

I'd like to see your evidence too, especially the occasions where it has been fatal. I too would like to speak to our leasing company about their tyre replacement policy. I can't find any evidence of this myself on the web so it would be interesting to see it.

Mart1000 · 01-30-2012, 04:26 AM

Would you like me to forward you the pm I sent Steve? Or would you like to argue and patronise? I'm not into playing stupid games xenon, you either take it or leave it.

xenon · 01-30-2012, 05:37 AM

Very much so. I'm not playing stupid games - if you have evidence that this is the case then I'd very much appreciate seeing it.

xenon · 01-31-2012, 02:37 AM

B33M3R · 01-31-2012, 05:39 AM

Aside from the fact the first thing I'd consider doing is ask for a refund on the part worn and chuck the money towards two new rears, could the juddering be due to a likely difference in rolling circumference, if as you say one tyre is now like new and the other barely legal, it could be highlighting an underlying rear diff issue/problem?

Any experts?

m1bjr · 01-31-2012, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B33M3R

Aside from the fact the first thing I'd consider doing is ask for a refund on the part worn and chuck the money towards two new rears, could the juddering be due to a likely difference in rolling circumference, if as you say one tyre is now like new and the other barely legal, it could be highlighting an underlying rear diff issue/problem?

Any experts?

rarely any issue with oem diffs.

Driveshafts certainly crop up.

Wheres the OP -=- is it fixed yet?

xenon · 02-01-2012, 02:40 AM

Where's the compelling evidence?

polska1979 · 02-01-2012, 10:50 AM

Hi all

sorry been mad busy, glad this topic is stirring the hornets nest...

So...Ive replaced the rear tyres with 2 new Bridgestone potenzas

still a judder...happens only in 5th gear now though.

Ive got bmw extened warranty so I am going to take it in to the stealers and ask them to take a look. Hopefully if something is wrong it will be covered

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