E90Post
 


Extreme Powerhouse
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > weird "air" noise during WOT



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      04-18-2012, 03:34 AM   #1
lawwailok
Lieutenant Colonel
lawwailok's Avatar
United_States
153
Rep
1,922
Posts

Drives: E90 335i, E70 X5
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sacramento, CA

iTrader: (18)

Garage List
weird "air" noise during WOT

i think i just notice this noise either from yesterday or today. it doesn't happen all the time. the "air" noise is more pronounce when under WOT. during normal driving, i cannot hear the noise.

it is the kind of noise that air is blowing by when WOT. car does not have any code, no SES, pulls strong. currently mod is ETS fmic, cobb s1+, bmw pe.
stock air box and stock DP. i am going to check on all the piping connection, but from what i've read, if there's boost leak from the connection, shouldn't it pop 30ff code? i didn't have chance to log anything yet but i tried in different gears, ie:2nd, 3rd, 4th. once rpm pass 3k+ and WOT, the noise will be 50% present.

besides checking the connections of the fmic, what is other possibility can cause that "air" noise? thanks for the help!
__________________
-eric
E90 335i TiAg *STOCK* see my garage for mod list..
E70 X5 SGM *try to stay stock* :/
Appreciate 0
      04-18-2012, 03:36 AM   #2
Ferruccio
First Lieutenant
Ferruccio's Avatar
United_States
43
Rep
373
Posts

Drives: 2010 335i
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Colorado Springs, CO

iTrader: (1)

Do you notice any degradation in performance? This could be a completely ignorant comment, but, maybe the waste gate is having some issues beyond just rattling? Do you only hear the air sound at full boost, or does it also happen before boost?
Appreciate 0
      04-18-2012, 03:40 AM   #3
lawwailok
Lieutenant Colonel
lawwailok's Avatar
United_States
153
Rep
1,922
Posts

Drives: E90 335i, E70 X5
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sacramento, CA

iTrader: (18)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferruccio View Post
Do you notice any degradation in performance? This could be a completely ignorant comment, but, maybe the waste gate is having some issues beyond just rattling? Do you only hear the air sound at full boost, or does it also happen before boost?
i didnt have chance to do any datalog as i was driving home from work and noticed it. performance was still there, and didn't seem like any degrade. both wastegates were just replaced a few months ago from dealership. and i can only hear the sound at WOT, or i'll say throttle >70%.
__________________
-eric
E90 335i TiAg *STOCK* see my garage for mod list..
E70 X5 SGM *try to stay stock* :/
Appreciate 0
      04-18-2012, 11:48 AM   #4
Jeff@TopGearSolutions
Jeff@TopGearSolutions's Avatar
United_States
3474
Rep
79,211
Posts

Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com

iTrader: (37)

What does air sound like?

Does it sound like its coming from the downpipes or turbo's area?
Appreciate 0
      04-18-2012, 11:51 AM   #5
Lulz_M3
Banned
United_States
33
Rep
1,029
Posts

Drives: AW 335i 6MT
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Jax, Fl

iTrader: (0)

I noticed this after installing Cobb, the turbo intake pipe was loose where it connects to the stock intake box, check to make sure both front and rear clamps are tight.
Appreciate 0
      04-18-2012, 11:58 AM   #6
AU335i
Captain
AU335i's Avatar
91
Rep
887
Posts

Drives: 2008 335i E92
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Auburn, AL

iTrader: (3)

does it sound different from the spool? i know after i installed my cobb tune I definitely heard a more pronounced spool and I'm still on stock everything... no loss in performance or boost leak codes either.
Appreciate 0
      04-18-2012, 12:29 PM   #7
E90Company
Major General
E90Company's Avatar
No_Country
198
Rep
6,136
Posts

Drives: Car
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: FL

iTrader: (2)

I think its the intake if you are saying its only at WOT
Appreciate 0
      04-18-2012, 01:09 PM   #8
mikead_99
Second Lieutenant
mikead_99's Avatar
United_States
6
Rep
201
Posts

Drives: 08 SMG 135i
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NoVA

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by E90Company View Post
I think its the intake if you are saying its only at WOT
+1, with Cobb just installed you are sucking more air and you can hear it.
__________________
135i ....
Appreciate 0
      04-18-2012, 01:50 PM   #9
lawwailok
Lieutenant Colonel
lawwailok's Avatar
United_States
153
Rep
1,922
Posts

Drives: E90 335i, E70 X5
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sacramento, CA

iTrader: (18)

Garage List
no, i've been on cobb for a long time and just a few days ago, i changed out to quad, but i doubt that's the problem tho.

i just did a datalogging earlier, everything looks fine, no boost leak, everything shows what they are supposed to be.

i guess drive a few more days and see if that happens again.

P.S.
from my datalog, when doing WOT @ ~4000 rpm, i do realize that cylinder 1 and 6 have a little lower timing that the rest of the cylinder, is that normal? let's say cylinder 2-5 show 4.8 but cylinder 1, 6 only show 1.2 but climbing up slower that the rest of the other 4 cylinder. is that something i need to keep an eye on?
__________________
-eric
E90 335i TiAg *STOCK* see my garage for mod list..
E70 X5 SGM *try to stay stock* :/
Appreciate 0
      04-18-2012, 01:55 PM   #10
rader1
Banned
71
Rep
2,197
Posts

Drives: Cobb Stage 2+ 135i
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Roanoke, VA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by lawwailok View Post
no, i've been on cobb for a long time and just a few days ago, i changed out to quad, but i doubt that's the problem tho.

i just did a datalogging earlier, everything looks fine, no boost leak, everything shows what they are supposed to be.

i guess drive a few more days and see if that happens again.

P.S.
from my datalog, when doing WOT @ ~4000 rpm, i do realize that cylinder 1 and 6 have a little lower timing that the rest of the cylinder, is that normal? let's say cylinder 2-5 show 4.8 but cylinder 1, 6 only show 1.2 but climbing up slower that the rest of the other 4 cylinder. is that something i need to keep an eye on?
A pic of the log(or attaching the data) would be helpful, but that doesn't sound like a major concern. As long as its not pulling timing across multiple cylinders mid pull then it shouldn't be a problem.
Appreciate 0
      04-18-2012, 02:14 PM   #11
lawwailok
Lieutenant Colonel
lawwailok's Avatar
United_States
153
Rep
1,922
Posts

Drives: E90 335i, E70 X5
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sacramento, CA

iTrader: (18)

Garage List
how can i attach a file here? never done it before
__________________
-eric
E90 335i TiAg *STOCK* see my garage for mod list..
E70 X5 SGM *try to stay stock* :/
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:13 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST