[kahoho1]

My water pump failed today, and it was at 66K miles. V.S. Motorsport quoted me $1250 to replace the water pump and thermostat, and also flush the coolant. The price includes the part. Is this a fair price? There was another shop named VFC Engineering in Chicago quoting me $1650 including the parts, and the shop was insane. Their price is even more expensive than BMW dealership. (I checked) First, they were dishonest when they gave out estimate about the cost of the parts, and they also over-charge customer with their labor fees. Moreover, their attitudes were really bad and didn't seem to value their customers. I paid $107 for diagnostic fee after I brought my car to this nearby european auto repair shop (VFC). I was very regretted of my decision and I was not even bothered to talk to the staffs at VFC after they try to overcharge me in every way they could. Then I just had my car towed to V.S. Motorsports. Bad Day!!

[C4sF80M3]

You could always do the repair yourself. The parts should be around $600 total.
http://www.trademotion.com/parts/200...iagram=1942075

[jonerik26]

Originally Posted by c4s335i

You could always do the repair yourself. The parts should be around $600 total.
http://www.trademotion.com/parts/200...iagram=1942075

+1 the location of the water pump thermosat are in an easy accessible spot, right next to the passenger front tire, and should be no problem replacing yourself

[tphaeng]

Your getting ripped off. Parts should be around $600+ labor 3-4 hours= $900-$1000. Assuming labor is $100 an hour.

[335xi Kevo]

I'll do it for you, $800!

[kahoho1]

Originally Posted by c4s335i

You could always do the repair yourself. The parts should be around $600 total.
http://www.trademotion.com/parts/200...iagram=1942075

Originally Posted by jonerik26

+1 the location of the water pump thermosat are in an easy accessible spot, right next to the passenger front tire, and should be no problem replacing yourself

i'm not a pro of installing engine parts on cars. I'm just so worried to fuck things up, so I prefer to have a pro done it for me.

[kahoho1]

Originally Posted by tphaeng

Your getting ripped off. Parts should be around $600+ labor 3-4 hours= $900-$1000. Assuming labor is $100 an hour.

Really? This is still a rib off? Here is the breakdown of estimate by V.S. Motorsports:
Water pump - $614
Thermostat - $113
Hardware - $8.4
OEM BMW Coolant - $23.50
Labor 5 hours - $425 ($85 per hour)
Tax 9.25% - $70

Is 5 hours labor reasonable? Brothers please tell me how many hours are fair to install the waterpump and thermostat.


VFC Engineering over estimate the parts to almost $950. (that's why I meant they were dishoneset when they gave estimate about parts) Then their labor fee is also ridiculous, almost $610 for just labor fee.

[kahoho1]

Originally Posted by 335xi Kevo

I'll do it for you, $800!

I wish you locate nearby Chicago.

[CubanJJ09]

I'd say 5 hours is reasonable

[Chicks-Love-Bimmers]

Ouch, sorry to hear this happen, I'm scared mine will go out within the next year or two. I'm currently at 40k and it has been problem free for me ever since 15k, not even a single fuel pump replacement *Knock on wood*. How did it happen to you though, did you just go into limp mode and then a hazard signal went on your screen? How did you determine it was the water pump?

[tphaeng]

For a shop that knows what they are doing it should e 4hrs of labor.

If u have another vehicle to drive buy the parts urself and have another shop install everything for u.

[07335ibmrblack]

i am no mechanic and I installed mine in 4 hours. Got the parts from tisher for 600 youtube helps

[vase330]

Consider yourself lucky. Mine failed with only 32K miles on the car. And it was the most freaking inconvenient place where I was. No choice but get towed to BMW pay the $1650 parts and labor curse like a drunken sailor and hope nothing else happened. I was busy as hell with work and school and all I needed was yet another distraction. Anyway its common issue with these cars and the pumps are crap at best. If it has the word pump in its name and its a BMW part, you are guaranteed it will fail it seems. Doesn't matter if its fuel water or oil, they are all crap parts. BMW can't seem to make any reliable pumps.

[powerbarsk8ter]

32k on the car and it wasnt covered under warrantee?

[GeorgiaTech335coupe]

I got my water pump done for much cheaper than that. ~$600. 2 hours labor.

[luv135i]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaTech335coupe

I got my water pump done for much cheaper than that. ~$600. 2 hours labor.

You in atlanta? Where?

[GeorgiaTech335coupe]

Originally Posted by luv135i

You in atlanta? Where?

No, in Orlando.

[kahoho1]

Originally Posted by Chicks-Love-Bimmers

Ouch, sorry to hear this happen, I'm scared mine will go out within the next year or two. I'm currently at 40k and it has been problem free for me ever since 15k, not even a single fuel pump replacement *Knock on wood*. How did it happen to you though, did you just go into limp mode and then a hazard signal went on your screen? How did you determine it was the water pump?

It happened as what you mentioned. Both VFC engineering and VS Motorsports told me that is due to the failure of water pump. And I was obliged to trust them.

[kahoho1]

Originally Posted by tphaeng

For a shop that knows what they are doing it should e 4hrs of labor.

If u have another vehicle to drive buy the parts urself and have another shop install everything for u.

My girl friend has a vehicle, but she needs to drive it to school, so I couldn't really use her car for most of the time. And I couldn't wait for the time to have Tischer delivered the parts. It will take almost a week for shipping. So I chose to ask VS. Motorsports to get the parts for me from bmw dealer. So it takes only 4 hours? Maybe I would try to talk to the staffs at VS Motorsports and see if they will kindly give me a discount for labor fee.

[kahoho1]

Originally Posted by 07335ibmrblack

i am no mechanic and I installed mine in 4 hours. Got the parts from tisher for 600 youtube helps

You are bold. I am not confident to install the parts myself.

Originally Posted by vase330

Consider yourself lucky. Mine failed with only 32K miles on the car. And it was the most freaking inconvenient place where I was. No choice but get towed to BMW pay the $1650 parts and labor curse like a drunken sailor and hope nothing else happened. I was busy as hell with work and school and all I needed was yet another distraction. Anyway its common issue with these cars and the pumps are crap at best. If it has the word pump in its name and its a BMW part, you are guaranteed it will fail it seems. Doesn't matter if its fuel water or oil, they are all crap parts. BMW can't seem to make any reliable pumps.

Sorry to hear that. but we all have to pay for replacing the water bump eventually. I actually pay close to $1500 including towing fee and diagnostic fee. So Im not much better off than you.

Originally Posted by GeorgiaTech335coupe

I got my water pump done for much cheaper than that. ~$600. 2 hours labor.

Wow..I wish I could find a deal like you did.