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      06-09-2012, 06:36 AM   #23
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tempted to go on the next one...but worried about having no insurance....
I am assuming, that you won't be pushing at your extreme, after all it is unfamiliar surroundings, and benefit of it being a closed event, it is unlikely that you will be going all out toe to toe with other drivers. Going on how Ian described the day, it seems that you can tackle the circuit at your own pace. After all he did say he pitted the car every few laps to keep the brakes optimum.

The way I see it is, you're more likely to have an incident driving at 7/10 on the road ( when you take into acocunt all the variables) than you are at 9/10 on the track.
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      06-09-2012, 06:38 AM   #24
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I am assuming, that you won't be pushing at your extreme, after all it is unfamiliar surroundings, and benefit of it being a closed event, it is unlikely that you will be going all out toe to toe with other drivers. Going on how Ian described the day, it seems that you can tackle the circuit at your own pace. After all he did say he pitted the car every few laps to keep the brakes optimum.

The way I see it is, you're more likely to have an incident driving at 7/10 on the road then you are at 9/10 on the track.

True...still a bit scared...

will have a think about the next one!...

Anyone going to the next?
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      06-09-2012, 06:44 AM   #25
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True...still a bit scared...

will have a think about the next one!...

Anyone going to the next?
I myself am not sure I can make it on those dates, when is the next one? I may well be very interested in that.

As it would be nice to see how my lil ol' car would fair against its bigger brother.
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I am assuming, that you won't be pushing at your extreme, after all it is unfamiliar surroundings, and benefit of it being a closed event, it is unlikely that you will be going all out toe to toe with other drivers. Going on how Ian described the day, it seems that you can tackle the circuit at your own pace. After all he did say he pitted the car every few laps to keep the brakes optimum.

The way I see it is, you're more likely to have an incident driving at 7/10 on the road then you are at 9/10 on the track.

True...still a bit scared...

will have a think about the next one!...

Anyone going to the next?
I would definitely do it. The track is pretty safe as weird as that sounds. The grip is immense and you'd have to be driving pretty stupidly to come off imo.

It was the best thing I've done in my car.
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Bear, would you be willing to go again?
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I am assuming, that you won't be pushing at your extreme, after all it is unfamiliar surroundings, and benefit of it being a closed event, it is unlikely that you will be going all out toe to toe with other drivers. Going on how Ian described the day, it seems that you can tackle the circuit at your own pace. After all he did say he pitted the car every few laps to keep the brakes optimum.

The way I see it is, you're more likely to have an incident driving at 7/10 on the road ( when you take into acocunt all the variables) than you are at 9/10 on the track.
True, but on the road you are insurred. So if you are worried then take out the track insurrance!

The way I look at it you have to ask yourself the question. What if the worst case scenario happens and you somehow stack it hard - can you afford to take that as a life lesson and accept responsibility for it. And this is regardless of this was your own fault or if someone hit you. Neither of these scenarios are likely to happen on a well marshalled day BUT it's something you should have considered before you go on track. If the answer to that one is no, then the £100-170 for the track day insurrance (depending on declared value) will look very cheap if anything does happen. Of cause if you do more track days this will add up and this is the reason why I changed my insurrance to Green Light's £50 flat fee per day. At that price it's a no brainer.

So I would recommend that you consider the insurance in the total experience. I would love to see more people attend track days and be able to have a E90Post group outing at some point.
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True, but on the road you are insurred. So if you are worried then take out the track insurrance!

The way I look at it you have to ask yourself the question. What if the worst case scenario happens and you somehow stack it hard - can you afford to take that as a life lesson and accept responsibility for it. And this is regardless of this was your own fault or if someone hit you. Neither of these scenarios are likely to happen on a well marshalled day BUT it's something you should have considered before you go on track. If the answer to that one is no, then the £100-170 for the track day insurrance (depending on declared value) will look very cheap if anything does happen. Of cause if you do more track days this will add up and this is the reason why I changed my insurrance to Green Light's £50 flat fee per day. At that price it's a no brainer.

So I would recommend that you consider the insurance in the total experience. I would love to see more people attend track days and be able to have a E90Post group outing at some point.
Sounds very reasonable, and that price you're right its a no brainer. I will
take it out should I attend. Thanks for the heads up.
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I organised a track day back in 2008 at Snetterton with great success. I took out insurance at the time as my car was worth 30k+ still as it was only a year old.

The 'Ring is a bigger risk IMHO as so many numpts floating about.
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Polite - As much as I enjoyed it, I probably wouldn't. You can take an M3 around Brands for £99 iirc. At £50 for the event and say £50 for insurance, that's a no brainer for me. Especially if you consider wear and tear to your car, plus petrol. But the next time I drive around Brands, it will probably be in the M3 & Single Seater combo. I know that's about £185 but still not far off.

dxb - Not to mention how crazy the costs/charges are if you come off at Ze Ring! I don't know what insurance for there would be for but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't include towing off charges. You come off there and can be quickly looking at a 1000€ bill.
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Polite - As much as I enjoyed it, I probably wouldn't. You can take an M3 around Brands for £99 iirc. At £50 for the event and say £50 for insurance, that's a no brainer for me. Especially if you consider wear and tear to your car, plus petrol. But the next time I drive around Brands, it will probably be in the M3 & Single Seater combo. I know that's about £185 but still not far off.

dxb - Not to mention how crazy the costs/charges are if you come off at Ze Ring! I don't know what insurance for there would be for but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't include towing off charges. You come off there and can be quickly looking at a 1000€ bill.
I paid £250 insurance for the Ring on one trip. When I looked at the paperwork properly I wasn't actually insured. It was for a track day not a tourist day.

Track days are organised, marshalled and helmets have to be worn etc.

Tourist days are not and full of all sorts. = lethal really.
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Exactly. It's what puts me off tbh and why again I'd rather do it in someone else's car.

On a side note, wow the app makes a mess of symbols. That was meant to be 1000Euros.

I knew of a lad who was charged a few hundred Euros just to get it off the track. I think they wanted double for the damage and he didn't have recovery to get the car home. I'm not even sure of he ever brought the car back. I'll try to look the thread up.
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I would definitely do it. The track is pretty safe as weird as that sounds. The grip is immense and you'd have to be driving pretty stupidly to come off imo.

It was the best thing I've done in my car.
i live in kent, if you go again can i share your car as i'd much rather thrash someone elses car than mine.
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Yeah ask the guy with the slowest car who said he's not going again.

But if I do sure. You bring your wife or partner and I'll have a go at her.
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Now, now play nice children. Mumies going to go the track and race the other daddies, And when I come back I want both of your rooms made up and have your teeth brushed and you both ready for bed. Mummy might bring back a freind and so I want you both on your best behaviour. Is that understood?
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Yeah ask the guy with the slowest car who said he's not going again.

But if I do sure. You bring your wife or partner and I'll have a go at her.
Deal!! you havent seen my wife!

seriously though it seems there will be a few of us there on the 26th be good to see you, (good to see you have a sense of humour)

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