[pimp4cheddar]

Hey folks.

I tried reading up on this and didn't really get the answer I'm looking for. I'm working on upgrading the shifting feel of my car.

I've noticed different kits for sale...some with shift knobs and boots, other without and some with just the stalk.

So far I have the BMS Modified BMW Clutch Delay and also the BMS Short Throw Clutch Stop: http://www.burgertuning.com/upgrades.html


What would I need to buy to upgrade my car? Can I just buy the lever (first link) and be done with it? I don't need a knob and boot...





Short Shift Lever: http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/25110434219/ES46518/

Entire BMW Short Shift Kit (with knob and boot): http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-335...fter/ES205553/

UCC: http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-335...ter/ES1****67/

Fidanza: http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-335...ter/ES2226151/


http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-335...train/Shifter/

[Laguna Seca Blue]

I have some great advice that will make your life a lot easier. Don't get one, they suck compared to stock. You have to be extremely accurate otherwise all you feel is notchiness. I liked mine before I knew better, now I'm seriously considering changing it back. Damn you previous owner!!

[nitehawk]

Originally Posted by Laguna Seca Blue

I have some great advice that will make your life a lot easier. Don't get one, they suck compared to stock. You have to be extremely accurate otherwise all you feel is notchiness. I liked mine before I knew better, now I'm seriously considering changing it back. Damn you previous owner!!

I pondered getting one a while back, but got used to the longer throws of the stock shifter. In the grand scheme of things, it's really not going to make you any faster around a track, or yield better quarter mile times. Just a change in shift feel. If anything, a short shifter increases the chances of mis-shifting. I agree the stock shifter is pretty smooth, minus the aggressive 1-2 shifts.

[bigdnno98]

Originally Posted by pimp4cheddar

Hey folks.

I tried reading up on this and didn't really get the answer I'm looking for. I'm working on upgrading the shifting feel of my car.

I've noticed different kits for sale...some with shift knobs and boots, other without and some with just the stalk.

So far I have the BMS Modified BMW Clutch Delay and also the BMS Short Throw Clutch Stop: http://www.burgertuning.com/upgrades.html


What would I need to buy to upgrade my car? Can I just buy the lever (first link) and be done with it? I don't need a knob and boot...





Short Shift Lever: http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/25110434219/ES46518/

Entire BMW Short Shift Kit (with knob and boot): http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-335...fter/ES205553/

UCC: http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-335...ter/ES1****67/

Fidanza: http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-335...ter/ES2226151/


http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-335...train/Shifter/

I just put the BMW performance short shift lever on yesterday. It shortened the throw a lot but the effort to shift increased. Initial thought is I don't like it. It actually has slowed my shift time down initially. Well see if it softens up some or I get used to it. If not its coming off.

[pimp4cheddar]

Originally Posted by bigdnno98

I just put the BMW performance short shift lever on yesterday. It shortened the throw a lot but the effort to shift increased. Initial thought is I don't like it. It actually has slowed my shift time down initially. Well see if it softens up some or I get used to it. If not its coming off.

How does the BMW Performance Short Shift Lever compare to the actual $300+ kit that they sell besides not including the shift knob and boot?

Is it the same thing?

[JYohay]

i have a B&M shift lever.....it bought the performance shifter level only and was gunna install it, but decided it wasnt going to be enough.
The B&M was cheap and was easy to install.

[pimp4cheddar]

Originally Posted by JYohay

i have a B&M shift lever.....it bought the performance shifter level only and was gunna install it, but decided it wasnt going to be enough.
The B&M was cheap and was easy to install.

I didn't fully understand...

Did you actually install the shifter or just buy it and never install it? Also...which is the B&M Shifter Lever?

[Laid Black 335i]

I have the B&M Short Shifter Lever as well, coupled with the stock shift knob (also have BMS CDV and clutch stop mod). Easy install and much shorter shifts. Not as smooth as stock (though I don't think any aftermarket lever will be as smooth as stock) but I am used to it.

[JYohay]

Originally Posted by pimp4cheddar

I didn't fully understand...

Did you actually install the shifter or just buy it and never install it? Also...which is the B&M Shifter Lever?

never installed it as just looking at it its not much of a change in feel.
The B&M has a different pivot part, where the PPk shifter is just a lever.
while the PPK may have better leverage, i wanted more of a mechanical feel.

[JamesM3M5]

Had short shifters in many different BMWs over the years and driven dozens of cars newer and older with short shifters, disliked or hated them all. Once the parts get sloppy, replace with new OE BMW stuff.

And you can delete the CDV entirely without buying any new parts.

[bigdnno98]

Originally Posted by pimp4cheddar

How does the BMW Performance Short Shift Lever compare to the actual $300+ kit that they sell besides not including the shift knob and boot?

Is it the same thing?

It's not the same. The kit comes with the lower piece that the shift lever connects to too. I have the weighted m3 zhp shift knob from turner motorsports that i love on the BMW performance shift lever. I've never had a whole short shift kit on my BMW so I don't know if it feels better but I hear theyre notchy. I'm going back to oem.

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Odd, my experience couldn't be more different than some of these guys. I love my UUC short shifter, DSSR, and weighted knob. I feel my shifting is quicker and more precise.

[pimp4cheddar]

Originally Posted by JamesM3M5

Had short shifters in many different BMWs over the years and driven dozens of cars newer and older with short shifters, disliked or hated them all. Once the parts get sloppy, replace with new OE BMW stuff.

And you can delete the CDV entirely without buying any new parts.

I have the Clutch Stop and Modded Clutch Valve in my car waiting to be installed. I haven't put them in yet as I wanted to do everything at the same time... Based on the feedback...I guess I might want to do the Cluthch Stop and Modded Clutch Valve first and see how I like it before I buy a Short Shift Lever.

Originally Posted by bigdnno98

It's not the same. The kit comes with the lower piece that the shift lever connects to too. I have the weighted m3 zhp shift knob from turner motorsports that i love on the BMW performance shift lever. I've never had a whole short shift kit on my BMW so I don't know if it feels better but I hear theyre notchy. I'm going back to oem.

I wasn't sure what the difference between the two were. I just noticed the PPK comes with the shift knob and boot...which I didn't need. I was hoping the Short Shift Lever was all I would need as it was pretty cheap... I can't believe so many people dislike it and want to go back to OEM.

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

Odd, my experience couldn't be more different than some of these guys. I love my UUC short shifter, DSSR, and weighted knob. I feel my shifting is quicker and more precise.

This is what I thought most of the reviews would sound like. I do feel like biting the bullet and buying the Short Shift Lever for $60 and trying it out. The different between buying just the Short Shift Lever and the entire $350 PPK kit isn't too crazy is it? - Meaning there isn't much of a difference is there?

[bigdnno98]

If you give me a week or so and I still don't like mine ill give you mine cheaper than $61+shipping.