Pro Tuning Freaks E30 Results!

nafoo · 10-19-2012, 03:25 PM

I've been working with Dzenno for the past few months messing with E85 and a variety of different ethanol percentages.

Back on September 1, 2012, I went ahead and had my car dyno'd while Dzenno was still trying to work out a little throttle closure I was getting in the lower rpm range. Here are the results:

Run 1: 381hp/420tq - PTF E30 (90% finished map with some throttle closures down low)
Run 2: 338hp/375tq - COBB OTS Stage 2+
Run 3: 252hp/267tq - Completely stock

After this, Dzenno figured out the throttle closure issues, but we decided to keep pushing for more power up top. I was in the middle of testing an E60 map when my car decided to start smoking like crazy. Now it only smokes after pushing the car hard. Most likely a turbo oil/coolant seal.

I'm currently waiting for the Vargas Stage 2s to arrive before I fix my car.

Next update will be when my car's all fixed up with Vargas Stage 2 & a new PTF map

ragingpanda · 10-19-2012, 03:43 PM

Very impressive results, I take it this is the E-tune service PTF provides?

cstavaru · 10-19-2012, 03:50 PM

I got 360whp on a conservative Mustang with GIAC Stage 2 (93RON maps) + methanol. With 16psi of boost. Doesn't seem like a big difference.

nafoo · 10-19-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cstavaru

I got 360whp on a conservative Mustang with GIAC Stage 2 (93RON maps) + methanol. With 16psi of boost. Doesn't seem like a big difference.

This was without meth. What does a conservative Mustang mean? Do you have a baseline?

marv85 · 10-19-2012, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstavaru

I got 360whp on a conservative Mustang with GIAC Stage 2 (93RON maps) + methanol. With 16psi of boost. Doesn't seem like a big difference.

What was your baseline?

marv85 · 10-19-2012, 03:56 PM

Good stuff Nafoo! Can't wait to share my results as well! Now if it only stops raining for a day or two

Sleeper · 10-19-2012, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstavaru

I got 360whp on a conservative Mustang with GIAC Stage 2 (93RON maps) + methanol. With 16psi of boost. Doesn't seem like a big difference.

Great contribution! Thanks! Good thing all Mustang dynos in the world read the exact same and "conservative" isn't subjective at all.

marv85 · 10-19-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nafoo

Prob heat soak. I drove around for 20 minutes doing a few 3rd gear pulls trying to mix up the fresh ethanol in my tank. Went straight to the dyno, loaded the car up and did 3 back to back pulls with the hood closed. This was the first and best run, obviously.

didn't you mention your IATs were in the 140s?

nafoo · 10-19-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by marv85

didn't you mention your IATs were in the 140s?

Heh, pretty much everything you can do before a dyno to guarantee bad results, I did. I'll get better dynos when my new turbos get here.

marv85 · 10-19-2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nafoo

Heh, pretty much everything you can do before a dyno to guarantee bad results, I did. I'll get better dynos when my new turbos get here.

hehe

so are you on teh beta list? or preorder?

nafoo · 10-19-2012, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marv85

hehe

so are you on teh beta list? or preorder?

Pre-order.

marv85 · 10-19-2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nafoo

Pre-order.

Good choice. Get the final ironed out product.

spool twice · 10-19-2012, 06:16 PM

Very nice, I reckon it'll be close to 400 (or even over) on a dyno jet?

can't wait to see the E60 results!

Ænema · 10-19-2012, 06:20 PM

130whp delta is awesome

jayzF30 · 10-19-2012, 06:33 PM

I read 15% on top of Mustang numbers to convert to Dynojet. This would be 440whp 483wtq in a Dynojet!! Incredible for no meth!

VNeBLOB42 · 10-19-2012, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spool twice

Very nice, I reckon it'll be close to 400 (or even over) on a dyno jet?

can't wait to see the E60 results!

yeah, should be well over 400+ on a DynoJet

can't wait to see the E60 update.

marv85 · 10-19-2012, 07:33 PM

nafoo even with E60 you need to keep your IATs in check

now let's see some crazy numbers

cstavaru · 10-20-2012, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marv85

What was your baseline?

251whp without any mods.

jayzF30 · 10-20-2012, 10:41 AM

With meth cooling those 140F temps this can easily be 400+ on a Mustang.

I finally got a meth kit

marv85 · 10-20-2012, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazze90

With meth cooling those 140F temps this can easily be 400+ on a Mustang.

I finally got a meth kit

With meth, my IATs are below ambient usually

HFS-4 FTW

nafoo · 10-20-2012, 03:12 PM

Yea yea, Dzenno has been hounding me to reinstall my meth kit. I messed up the trunk kit I bought from bms. Need to glue it up, but have been lazy.

10-19-2012, 03:25 PM	#1
nafoo Major 48 Rep 1,145 Posts Drives: Boosted Bimmer Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Earth iTrader: (15)	Pro Tuning Freaks E30 Results! I've been working with Dzenno for the past few months messing with E85 and a variety of different ethanol percentages. Back on September 1, 2012, I went ahead and had my car dyno'd while Dzenno was still trying to work out a little throttle closure I was getting in the lower rpm range. Here are the results: Run 1: 381hp/420tq - PTF E30 (90% finished map with some throttle closures down low) Run 2: 338hp/375tq - COBB OTS Stage 2+ Run 3: 252hp/267tq - Completely stock After this, Dzenno figured out the throttle closure issues, but we decided to keep pushing for more power up top. I was in the middle of testing an E60 map when my car decided to start smoking like crazy. Now it only smokes after pushing the car hard. Most likely a turbo oil/coolant seal. I'm currently waiting for the Vargas Stage 2s to arrive before I fix my car. Next update will be when my car's all fixed up with Vargas Stage 2 & a new PTF map
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cstavaru Brigadier General 327 Rep 3,262 Posts Drives: 2009 335i M Sport Sedan 6MT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bucharest, Romania iTrader: (0)	I got 360whp on a conservative Mustang with GIAC Stage 2 (93RON maps) + methanol. With 16psi of boost. Doesn't seem like a big difference. __________________ Mods(click): Cobb + RB Turbos \| Aquamist HFS-4 Meth \| Drexler LSD \| Bilstein B12 Pro-Kit \| Custom K&N Apollo Intake \| Wagner Intercooler \| Macht Schnell Downpipes \| BMW Performance Power Kit \| BMW Performance Exhaust \| BMW Performance Short Shifter \| M3 Subframe Bushings \|
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marv85 Colonel 71 Rep 2,626 Posts Drives: '07 E92 335i MT Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (7)	Good stuff Nafoo! Can't wait to share my results as well! Now if it only stops raining for a day or two __________________ '18 F80 M3 Comp 6MT - Stock '07 E92 335i 6MT- HP650, inlets/outlets, ER FMIC, VRSF CP, LPFP stg2, CSF rad, 'is Aux rad, ER OC, Ohlins, M control arms, eibach front sway bar. '05 C55 AMG SOLD - '22 Tesla M3P \| '10 E92 335i M, 6MT \| '07 E90 335i, PTF COBB E50, FBO, HFS4
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jayzF30 Captain 36 Rep 783 Posts Drives: '07 335i, '09 M3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Thornhill iTrader: (0)	I read 15% on top of Mustang numbers to convert to Dynojet. This would be 440whp 483wtq in a Dynojet!! Incredible for no meth! __________________ '07 335i E90 - PTF ProTUNED by Dzenno - COBB FMIC - AFE DCI - AA DPs - HFS4 Meth '09 M3 - Stock
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marv85 Colonel 71 Rep 2,626 Posts Drives: '07 E92 335i MT Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (7)	nafoo even with E60 you need to keep your IATs in check now let's see some crazy numbers __________________ '18 F80 M3 Comp 6MT - Stock '07 E92 335i 6MT- HP650, inlets/outlets, ER FMIC, VRSF CP, LPFP stg2, CSF rad, 'is Aux rad, ER OC, Ohlins, M control arms, eibach front sway bar. '05 C55 AMG SOLD - '22 Tesla M3P \| '10 E92 335i M, 6MT \| '07 E90 335i, PTF COBB E50, FBO, HFS4
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jayzF30 Captain 36 Rep 783 Posts Drives: '07 335i, '09 M3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Thornhill iTrader: (0)	With meth cooling those 140F temps this can easily be 400+ on a Mustang. I finally got a meth kit __________________ '07 335i E90 - PTF ProTUNED by Dzenno - COBB FMIC - AFE DCI - AA DPs - HFS4 Meth '09 M3 - Stock
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nafoo Major 48 Rep 1,145 Posts Drives: Boosted Bimmer Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Earth iTrader: (15)	Yea yea, Dzenno has been hounding me to reinstall my meth kit. I messed up the trunk kit I bought from bms. Need to glue it up, but have been lazy.
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