Wanting to order my first BMW...

P1 · 08-17-2007, 12:14 AM

Evenin' everyone!

My first post here, but been lurking for a while now. I'm ready to order an '08 328i Coupe for the missus, so I've been doing my research and have decided on the following options:

'08 BMW 328i Coupe
Automatic Transmission
Black Metallic Paint
Sport Package

I'm ready to jump on it, but no dealer I'm speaking to is willing to move on the price. I'm seeing a lot of people on this board speak of ordering vehicles at $500-$1,000 over invoice.

Am I just trying to order at a bad time? And if so, when would be a better time to negotiate?

Thanks in advance!

e92man · 08-17-2007, 12:19 AM

i think that a 328 should be easier to negotiate since its not the 335 but it is a lower priced car so they wont take off as much. i would order it now and u will get an 08 version. the price will keep goin up and up of u wait too long. hope to see u more here. especially if u order that car. it is an awesome color combo

P1 · 08-17-2007, 12:24 AM

Thanks for the welcome E92man. I was hoping that since it was a 328i it would be easier to haggle on the price, but no dice so far.

I was hoping to hear that perhaps around Christmas time it might be a good time to buy, but apparantly it will only get tougher to have the dealership come down on the price the longer I wait?

I must find out how everyone is getting their cars for $500 above invoice!!!

borisivan · 08-17-2007, 10:03 AM

Before I decided on ED, I was able to get a local dealer to offer up an '07 335xi for 600$ over invoice. Didn't have a exact car I wanted. I asked him about ordering an '08, and they wouldn't even come *close* to anything like that. I think they're more willing to stick to their guns on brand new first-month '08s, considering they're not here yet.

ED, on the other hand, is a different story. Huge savings on the american-vs-ED invoice, *and* the dealer was willing to accept less profit due to the fact that the ED doesn't count against their allocation of cars for that month.

I wholeheartedly recommend ED.

Dmillion · 08-17-2007, 10:32 AM

I think that the dealers are not moving bc they know a lot of people are waiting fo the 08's to come out (like me). I bet that if you give it a few months, you can get a sweet deal on the 328 especially when the demand "slightly" dies down. Take a look at the "what are people paying for e92" thread...and you can see what kind of deals people were getting in like october - december of 06...they were getting better deals back then, than the people that ordered in march or april of 07. I think the fuel pump problem cause a shortage in supply, but last yr..lots of people were getting some pretty sweet deal before the fuel pump disaster

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=23975&page=13

IrvRobinson · 08-17-2007, 11:53 AM

There are no coupes or cabs to be had for '08 with such big discounts at least here in Illinois...the best way to save on these is through ED,you can order from anyone in the country.

P1 · 08-17-2007, 12:02 PM

Looks like I might just have to tough it out for 6 months and then try again...

CnoteMD · 08-17-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by P1et

Evenin' everyone!

My first post here, but been lurking for a while now. I'm ready to order an '08 328i Coupe for the missus, so I've been doing my research and have decided on the following options:

'08 BMW 328i Coupe
Automatic Transmission
Black Metallic Paint
Sport Package

I'm ready to jump on it, but no dealer I'm speaking to is willing to move on the price. I'm seeing a lot of people on this board speak of ordering vehicles at $500-$1,000 over invoice.

Am I just trying to order at a bad time? And if so, when would be a better time to negotiate?

Thanks in advance!

One of the major factors may be your location. If you only have one dealer in your area, they may not feel the pressure to negotiate much. Conversely, in my area there are probably 15 dealers within a reasonable distance, so they are ALWAYS willing to deal. Sedans are more "available" and are discounted more than coupes (or convertibles).

If all else fails, you can consider doing ED or looking outside of your immediate vicinity. Though this 2nd option may, unfortunately, make future service visits more difficult.

P1 · 08-17-2007, 04:32 PM

I took the advise of some members and called Garlyn Shelton: was able to get $400 off MSRP without raising a fuss.

At least it's something!

will@longbeachbmw · 08-17-2007, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by P1et

I took the advise of some members and called Garlyn Shelton: was able to get $400 off MSRP without raising a fuss.

At least it's something!

What you are seeing ($500 over invoice) is on a 328i sedan - not on the coupe.

The coupe's are just too hot right now - the whole country is lacking in the discount department on coupe's and convertibles.

Will

John 070 · 08-18-2007, 05:42 AM

Qualitatively speaking, the situation was similar in Oct. 06. The coupe had only been in customers' hands for about what, 1 to 1 1/2 mos.? I was getting that list price thing. So I punched 10017 into edmunds.com, and about 6 dealerships contacted me immediately, of course none had a car for immediate delivery, but the prices ranged from $1100 to $1800 off, just like that. From reading the forum, my goal was to get as close to $1800 off list AND get a production number that day. That eliminated all but two dealers. In the end, the dealer 4 miles from my house said you don't have to go to New York to get $1700 off, we'll do the same.

I'm just reiterating what worked for me--edmunds.com seemed to save a lot of BS and cut to the chase. Just think--if a dealership is going to follow up on a lead through edmunds, what shot do they have of making a sale if they come back with list, when their competitors are trying to sell every coupe they get by discounting when necessary?

P1 · 08-24-2007, 10:53 AM

As an update, the best offer I've gotten so far is $1,000 off MSRP with BMW matts.

nmulax · 08-24-2007, 11:49 AM

Keep searching and don't limit yourself to local dealers. Try ones outside of large metropolitan areas.

Send emails out stating exactly what you want, when you want to order and take delivery, and what you'll pay. I'm sure you'll get a few bites.

TheSurgeon · 08-24-2007, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P1et

As an update, the best offer I've gotten so far is $1,000 off MSRP with BMW matts.

Which dealer is this? I may be able to use this info as leverage to negotiate with my dealer. So far the best I've gotten is $750 off MSRP for the 08 coupes.

P1 · 08-30-2007, 12:07 PM

And I'm down to $1,370 off MSRP at Mike Pile BMW in Tyler, TX... Includes free mats apparantly as well.

e_ticket · 08-30-2007, 12:31 PM

a little perseverance goes a long way.

P1 · 08-30-2007, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e_ticket

a little perseverance goes a long way.

It's like pulling teeth... on email!

f82phan · 08-30-2007, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P1et

And I'm down to $1,370 off MSRP at Mike Pile BMW in Tyler, TX... Includes free mats apparantly as well.

you can't get what you don't ask for (except for the mats, in your case)...

congrats!

08-17-2007, 12:14 AM	#1
P1 Lieutenant General 11714 Rep 11,180 Posts Drives: 2004 3/4 ton Duramax Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: United States iTrader: (1)	Wanting to order my first BMW... Evenin' everyone! My first post here, but been lurking for a while now. I'm ready to order an '08 328i Coupe for the missus, so I've been doing my research and have decided on the following options: '08 BMW 328i Coupe Automatic Transmission Black Metallic Paint Sport Package I'm ready to jump on it, but no dealer I'm speaking to is willing to move on the price. I'm seeing a lot of people on this board speak of ordering vehicles at $500-$1,000 over invoice. Am I just trying to order at a bad time? And if so, when would be a better time to negotiate? Thanks in advance!
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e92man Lieutenant Colonel 63 Rep 1,719 Posts Drives: modded e92 335i coupe Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: north florida iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 e92 335i coupe [0.00]	i think that a 328 should be easier to negotiate since its not the 335 but it is a lower priced car so they wont take off as much. i would order it now and u will get an 08 version. the price will keep goin up and up of u wait too long. hope to see u more here. especially if u order that car. it is an awesome color combo __________________ e92 335i jet black, coral red, aluminum, sport, step, paddles, heated seats, pdc, bmw aluminum pedals, oem aero kit front lip, 19' miro type 366 hamann race edition reps, H&R sport springs, 15% tints, vorsteiner rear deck spoiler, custom front pdc "The only cars that should be yellow are taxi cabs and school busses."
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P1 Lieutenant General 11714 Rep 11,180 Posts Drives: 2004 3/4 ton Duramax Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: United States iTrader: (1)	Thanks for the welcome E92man. I was hoping that since it was a 328i it would be easier to haggle on the price, but no dice so far. I was hoping to hear that perhaps around Christmas time it might be a good time to buy, but apparantly it will only get tougher to have the dealership come down on the price the longer I wait? I must find out how everyone is getting their cars for $500 above invoice!!!
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08-17-2007, 10:03 AM	#4
borisivan craptastic 22 Rep 281 Posts Drives: 2010 335xi Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: hell in a handbasket iTrader: (0)	$ over invoice Before I decided on ED, I was able to get a local dealer to offer up an '07 335xi for 600$ over invoice. Didn't have a exact car I wanted. I asked him about ordering an '08, and they wouldn't even come close to anything like that. I think they're more willing to stick to their guns on brand new first-month '08s, considering they're not here yet. ED, on the other hand, is a different story. Huge savings on the american-vs-ED invoice, and the dealer was willing to accept less profit due to the fact that the ED doesn't count against their allocation of cars for that month. I wholeheartedly recommend ED.
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08-17-2007, 10:32 AM	#5
Dmillion Private First Class 23 Rep 135 Posts Drives: 2005 bmw 545i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: houston, Texas iTrader: (0)	I think that the dealers are not moving bc they know a lot of people are waiting fo the 08's to come out (like me). I bet that if you give it a few months, you can get a sweet deal on the 328 especially when the demand "slightly" dies down. Take a look at the "what are people paying for e92" thread...and you can see what kind of deals people were getting in like october - december of 06...they were getting better deals back then, than the people that ordered in march or april of 07. I think the fuel pump problem cause a shortage in supply, but last yr..lots of people were getting some pretty sweet deal before the fuel pump disaster http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=23975&page=13
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08-17-2007, 11:53 AM	#6
IrvRobinson Banned 39 Rep 731 Posts Drives: X3 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	There are no coupes or cabs to be had for '08 with such big discounts at least here in Illinois...the best way to save on these is through ED,you can order from anyone in the country.
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P1 Lieutenant General 11714 Rep 11,180 Posts Drives: 2004 3/4 ton Duramax Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: United States iTrader: (1)	Looks like I might just have to tough it out for 6 months and then try again...
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08-17-2007, 04:32 PM	#9
P1 Lieutenant General 11714 Rep 11,180 Posts Drives: 2004 3/4 ton Duramax Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: United States iTrader: (1)	I took the advise of some members and called Garlyn Shelton: was able to get $400 off MSRP without raising a fuss. At least it's something!
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08-18-2007, 05:42 AM	#11
John 070 Lieutenant General 1753 Rep 14,825 Posts Drives: 335i cpe Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ZSP/ZPP/ZCW iTrader: (0)	Qualitatively speaking, the situation was similar in Oct. 06. The coupe had only been in customers' hands for about what, 1 to 1 1/2 mos.? I was getting that list price thing. So I punched 10017 into edmunds.com, and about 6 dealerships contacted me immediately, of course none had a car for immediate delivery, but the prices ranged from $1100 to $1800 off, just like that. From reading the forum, my goal was to get as close to $1800 off list AND get a production number that day. That eliminated all but two dealers. In the end, the dealer 4 miles from my house said you don't have to go to New York to get $1700 off, we'll do the same. I'm just reiterating what worked for me--edmunds.com seemed to save a lot of BS and cut to the chase. Just think--if a dealership is going to follow up on a lead through edmunds, what shot do they have of making a sale if they come back with list, when their competitors are trying to sell every coupe they get by discounting when necessary?
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08-24-2007, 10:53 AM	#12
P1 Lieutenant General 11714 Rep 11,180 Posts Drives: 2004 3/4 ton Duramax Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: United States iTrader: (1)	As an update, the best offer I've gotten so far is $1,000 off MSRP with BMW matts.
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08-24-2007, 11:49 AM	#13
nmulax Brigadier General 407 Rep 4,320 Posts Drives: '07 Z4 M Coupe Join Date: May 2006 Location: Metro-Detroit iTrader: (5) Garage List 2007 Z4M Coupé [7.66]	Keep searching and don't limit yourself to local dealers. Try ones outside of large metropolitan areas. Send emails out stating exactly what you want, when you want to order and take delivery, and what you'll pay. I'm sure you'll get a few bites. __________________
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P1 Lieutenant General 11714 Rep 11,180 Posts Drives: 2004 3/4 ton Duramax Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: United States iTrader: (1)	And I'm down to $1,370 off MSRP at Mike Pile BMW in Tyler, TX... Includes free mats apparantly as well.
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e_ticket Enlisted Member 0 Rep 40 Posts Drives: 2007 E90 328i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (0)	a little perseverance goes a long way.
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