Older VS Newer Injectors

16M4 · 04-21-2013, 09:04 AM

I called my local dealership to get an idea of how much injectors cost. I was asked which ones I needed (new (new engineering design) or old part numbers). The difference in price between the two is about $100.

I was wondering if anyone here can confirm that the new injectors indeed work better? Should I buy the older ones to save some money?

Also, I asked the price to get the injectors coded. I was told that they didn't need to be coded...? I'm not sure if the advisor I spoke to was very knowledgable...Has anyone put in new injectors without getting them coded?

flexinator · 04-21-2013, 09:34 AM

All new injectors must be coded. I have injectors some of which are 65k miles and 5 yrs old, that are working flawlessly... I run e85 mix occasionally...

Use your judgement. Maybe the new ones are better, but most of the older ones seem to be fine.

flexinator · 04-21-2013, 09:35 AM

Supposedly you can't mix old and new... Makes no sense to me. Maybe you can try it out and report back

N8N · 04-21-2013, 09:39 AM

where can you get new old part no. injectors? I need one for #6 and really don't want to have to pay for all six new and coding esp. since I can't seem to find anyone but dealership who wants to help me

thanks!

16M4 · 04-21-2013, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by flexinator

All new injectors must be coded. I have injectors some of which are 65k miles and 5 yrs old, that are working flawlessly... I run e85 mix occasionally...

Use your judgement. Maybe the new ones are better, but most of the older ones seem to be fine.

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Originally Posted by flexinator

Supposedly you can't mix old and new... Makes no sense to me. Maybe you can try it out and report back

Yeah, you can't mix them up. I'm gonna get the old ones if I only need a couple.

Quote:

Originally Posted by N8N

where can you get new old part no. injectors? I need one for #6 and really don't want to have to pay for all six new and coding esp. since I can't seem to find anyone but dealership who wants to help me

thanks!

They're printed on the injectors. You have to take them out.

N8N · 04-21-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Alfred

They're printed on the injectors. You have to take them out.

I got that, where are the old ones available for sale? My local dealer and ECS are only selling the new style. I definitely need one of the old ones unless I want to replace all six - I don't have the part no. handy but it's the one before the latest revision, I have confirmed that. thanks!

joec500 · 04-21-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by N8N

where can you get new old part no. injectors? I need one for #6 and really don't want to have to pay for all six new and coding esp. since I can't seem to find anyone but dealership who wants to help me

thanks!

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=806556

I actually have a full set of spares just in case

N8N · 04-21-2013, 12:26 PM

thanks, send the guy a PM. you guys are lifesavers, I really didn't want to have to drop $1200 on new injectors.

tinnsoldaten · 04-21-2013, 01:16 PM

I also have injectors , all used ,but in working order and sitting as spares.

If anyone need , PM.

2nice89 · 04-21-2013, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by N8N

where can you get new old part no. injectors? I need one for #6 and really don't want to have to pay for all six new and coding esp. since I can't seem to find anyone but dealership who wants to help me

thanks!

Go on ebay and buy some used ones for $29 lol...i bought 4 wen i only needed 1

N8N · 04-22-2013, 08:09 AM

I just called another local dealership and he said that the stock of 13-53-7-585-261 (that's the injectors that I have in my car now; the current part no. is 13-53-8-616-079) had been depleted nationwide... OP, if you have a source I would be grateful if you'd help me out. Just need one!

The guy that joec500 posted about sold his right before he read my PM

tinnsoldaten, I appreciate the offer but where your injectors are is about a four hour drive from me so I'm trying to find some shipped

If I go the used injector route, how do I replace the Teflon seals? It appears that some BMW special tools are required (according to the shop manual) and I can't seem to find an online source for them, is there a workaround using commonly available hand tools? I will try calling the SA at Tischer (yes, I'm quasi-local to them) that I spoke to on Friday and see if they'll install used parts for me but I don't know how cool they will be with that. Haven't had any luck finding an indy who will call me back!

OP, sorry about jacking your thread. If this goes on any longer I'll start a new one.

16M4 · 04-22-2013, 04:30 PM

I wouldn't buy used injectors..it'll just be a headache down the road. You can't easily distinguish between the two. I'd rather spend my money once

Rotorocious · 04-22-2013, 05:03 PM

fwiw. I put in a used injector once when I wanted to test solutions for a misfire. I just left the old teflon seal on there and replaced the decoupling element gasket and it's been fine ever since.
New injectors are the way to go if you can find them.

joec500 · 04-23-2013, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by N8N

I just called another local dealership and he said that the stock of 13-53-7-585-261 (that's the injectors that I have in my car now; the current part no. is 13-53-8-616-079) had been depleted nationwide... OP, if you have a source I would be grateful if you'd help me out. Just need one!

The guy that joec500 posted about sold his right before he read my PM

tinnsoldaten, I appreciate the offer but where your injectors are is about a four hour drive from me so I'm trying to find some shipped

If I go the used injector route, how do I replace the Teflon seals? It appears that some BMW special tools are required (according to the shop manual) and I can't seem to find an online source for them, is there a workaround using commonly available hand tools? I will try calling the SA at Tischer (yes, I'm quasi-local to them) that I spoke to on Friday and see if they'll install used parts for me but I don't know how cool they will be with that. Haven't had any luck finding an indy who will call me back!

OP, sorry about jacking your thread. If this goes on any longer I'll start a new one.

Did you check if Tischer had any sitting around, I know they show stock on their website.

MAC335i · 04-23-2013, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by joec500

Did you check if Tischer had any sitting around, I know they show stock on their website.

I talked to them and they said they only have the newest injectors

04-21-2013, 09:04 AM	#1
16M4 Colonel 140 Rep 2,978 Posts Drives: 2016 SO M4 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Broomfiled, CO iTrader: (5)	Older VS Newer Injectors I called my local dealership to get an idea of how much injectors cost. I was asked which ones I needed (new (new engineering design) or old part numbers). The difference in price between the two is about $100. I was wondering if anyone here can confirm that the new injectors indeed work better? Should I buy the older ones to save some money? Also, I asked the price to get the injectors coded. I was told that they didn't need to be coded...? I'm not sure if the advisor I spoke to was very knowledgable...Has anyone put in new injectors without getting them coded?
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flexinator Captain 90 Rep 639 Posts Drives: 2011 335xi coupe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: US iTrader: (2) Garage List 2008 335xi [0.00]	All new injectors must be coded. I have injectors some of which are 65k miles and 5 yrs old, that are working flawlessly... I run e85 mix occasionally... Use your judgement. Maybe the new ones are better, but most of the older ones seem to be fine.
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flexinator Captain 90 Rep 639 Posts Drives: 2011 335xi coupe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: US iTrader: (2) Garage List 2008 335xi [0.00]	Supposedly you can't mix old and new... Makes no sense to me. Maybe you can try it out and report back
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N8N Lieutenant Colonel 179 Rep 1,843 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Berwyn Heights, MD iTrader: (2)	where can you get new old part no. injectors? I need one for #6 and really don't want to have to pay for all six new and coding esp. since I can't seem to find anyone but dealership who wants to help me thanks!
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N8N Lieutenant Colonel 179 Rep 1,843 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Berwyn Heights, MD iTrader: (2)	thanks, send the guy a PM. you guys are lifesavers, I really didn't want to have to drop $1200 on new injectors.
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N8N Lieutenant Colonel 179 Rep 1,843 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Berwyn Heights, MD iTrader: (2)	I just called another local dealership and he said that the stock of 13-53-7-585-261 (that's the injectors that I have in my car now; the current part no. is 13-53-8-616-079) had been depleted nationwide... OP, if you have a source I would be grateful if you'd help me out. Just need one! The guy that joec500 posted about sold his right before he read my PM tinnsoldaten, I appreciate the offer but where your injectors are is about a four hour drive from me so I'm trying to find some shipped If I go the used injector route, how do I replace the Teflon seals? It appears that some BMW special tools are required (according to the shop manual) and I can't seem to find an online source for them, is there a workaround using commonly available hand tools? I will try calling the SA at Tischer (yes, I'm quasi-local to them) that I spoke to on Friday and see if they'll install used parts for me but I don't know how cool they will be with that. Haven't had any luck finding an indy who will call me back! OP, sorry about jacking your thread. If this goes on any longer I'll start a new one. Last edited by N8N; 04-22-2013 at 08:14 AM..
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16M4 Colonel 140 Rep 2,978 Posts Drives: 2016 SO M4 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Broomfiled, CO iTrader: (5)	I wouldn't buy used injectors..it'll just be a headache down the road. You can't easily distinguish between the two. I'd rather spend my money once
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04-22-2013, 05:03 PM	#13
Rotorocious Lieutenant Colonel 106 Rep 1,520 Posts Drives: 335xi Join Date: May 2010 Location: Colorado iTrader: (3)	fwiw. I put in a used injector once when I wanted to test solutions for a misfire. I just left the old teflon seal on there and replaced the decoupling element gasket and it's been fine ever since. New injectors are the way to go if you can find them.
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