[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Ænema

I did when running larger than stock turbos. For stock turbo cars it will work just fine and I whole heartedly applaud your/their efforts.

An open source flash will work with larger than stock turbos. Just saying.

[Lunatic Fringe]

Originally Posted by Ænema

FWIW, accessing all the tables in the DME isn't going to do a single thing for people wanting to flash only tune for anything larger than stock turbos. Having an open source tune that will only work when paired with a piggy isn't exactly exciting.

From my understanding the open source platform will give us access to an infinite number of tables, as well as the ability to create our own! Look at the Evo platform! This has the potential to be an incredibly powerful resource.

What gives you the impression it will only work with piggys?

[Dmacc]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

An open source flash will work with larger than stock turbos. Just saying.

Out of the 221 tables you have access to, do you know how many total tables there are to access in the DME? Maybe ones you and Rombinhood2 have not decrypted yet?

[Ænema]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

An open source flash will work with larger than stock turbos. Just saying.

Originally Posted by Lunatic Fringe

From my understanding the open source platform will give us access to an infinite number of tables, as well as the ability to create our own! Look at the Evo platform! This has the potential to be an incredibly powerful resource.

What gives you the impression it will only work with piggys?

It will work but you won't be able to fully take advantage of them. The DME logic itself does not work past a cartain MAF/load value(roughly 220 load values.) IF someone writes their own DME logic to correct this than that should take care of it however i feel like that is a huge undertaking. Like i said though, i wish you guys luck. Definitely an exciting and interesting time for the N54

[Joshboody]

Originally Posted by Ænema

It will work but you won't be able to fully take advantage of them. The DME logic itself does not work past a cartain MAF/load value(roughly 220 load values.) IF someone writes their own DME logic to correct this than that should take care of it however i feel like that is a huge undertaking. Like i said though, i wish you guys luck. Definitely an exciting and interesting time for the N54

Don't know if "logic" is the right word. Not a puter guy, but my thought on changes by Cobb are finding certain tables that relate and altering them. For example the MAF cap was corrected by altering the x, y axis of a particular table not seen in ATR. PTFs "race code" is potentially altering a VE, or MAF table resulting in linear boost setpoints at each RPM... other than stock decreasing req boost per load with increasing rpm. The logic is determined by the table, calc relationships that can all be altered if located.

I'm curious how tables are labeled, defined.

[akotten]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Scott, we have been reprogramming DMEs for $100 for those who want to ship their dmes to us. Many have done this. This is not a money making product for us and we do it largely as a courtesy to our customers who don't want to spend $700+ on a back end flash. For those who do, they can get a Cobb and adjust it accordingly. Cobb ATR/ATP does not have any of the ignition limiter maps that we modify in our in-house flash tunes. And upon further thought, it was not in our best interest to help out competition with map discovery given with what is on the horizon. In business, we can't always make everyone happy. We do our best with what options we have and with what makes sense. But I'm happy to say this will all be a moot point soon enough. Everyone will have access to everything at a much lower price than what is currently available in the market. And we are happy to be a part of that.

So glad to see you're on board with the open source. Exciting times indeed!