Lease residuals and money factor

Haywood · 05-10-2013, 08:33 AM

I've done a search and could not find anything.

Does anyone have the May lease residuals and money factors? I know the 1er folks publish them from time to time. Looking at getting a 335is. Thanks.

Ali.K_BMW · 05-10-2013, 08:50 AM

.00127

$1,500 3 Series Coupe/Convertible
$750 Loyalty

62% 15k
64% 12k
65% 10k

Haywood · 05-10-2013, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ali@BMWMt.laurel

.00127

$1,500 3 Series Coupe/Convertible
$750 Loyalty

62% 15k
64% 12k
65% 10k

Thanks. Can you just go over these numbers for me again? I haven't leased in 3 years!

This is the offer one dealership is giving me. The payment is $734 per month which seems high. Fully loaded (manual) 335is.

MSRP is $62,125. Invoice is $57,800. Sale price: $58,700 – Rebates of $2,750 = $55,950. This is with $3500 down which I've never had to do before. Thanks.

arctic330i · 05-10-2013, 10:37 AM

That seems high. I'd put down some money in refundable security deposits as well. I have a fully loaded 335is coming and am under 600. But that is a lot of money in money upfront, but the security deposits are refundable.

LMB335IS · 05-10-2013, 11:34 AM

That's crazy money. My 335is listed at $60095. My payment is $580 with 7% tax on a 10k/yr lease. Start up costs were $950 with Turn key credit and low mileage lease turn-in credit. And the MF was slightly higher (.0013) when I cut my deal.

Haywood · 05-10-2013, 12:58 PM

So, I got them down to invoice (this would be my 3rd BMW from them).

$57,700 fully loaded (except manual). Paying first month's, taxes (3% in VA), title, etc. comes to $2400 so that would bring my payment to $666 per month for 15k month miles. Good deal?

LMB335IS · 05-10-2013, 01:47 PM

Much better. Here's a great website for money factors and leasing in general. It also has a lease calculator that gives you a rating on whether your lease is bad or good. http://www.ridewithg.com/

Haywood · 05-10-2013, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LMB335IS

Much better. Here's a great website for money factors and leasing in general. It also has a lease calculator that gives you a rating on whether your lease is bad or good. http://www.ridewithg.com/

Cool. Thanks.

2015M4inCT · 05-10-2013, 10:10 PM

I was able to get my 2013 335is which stickered around 60k for 599/month including CT sales tax (7%) with no cap cost reduction. Essentially a few hundred below invoice and then the 1500 rebate, but no loyalty for me as it was my first BMW. Money factor was higher at the time too .00130.

I think there is some backend dealer cash on these coupes... how much, who knows... but they were happy to go below invoice for me.

Good luck, sweet ride!!

2015M4inCT · 05-10-2013, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335is2013

I was able to get my 2013 335is which stickered around 60k for 599/month including CT sales tax (7%) with no cap cost reduction. Essentially a few hundred below invoice and then the 1500 rebate, but no loyalty for me as it was my first BMW. Money factor was higher at the time too .00130.

I think there is some backend dealer cash on these coupes... how much, who knows... but they were happy to go below invoice for me.

Good luck, sweet ride!!

Oh yeah, forgot to mention this is 15k too.

Haywood · 05-10-2013, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335is2013

I was able to get my 2013 335is which stickered around 60k for 599/month including CT sales tax (7%) with no cap cost reduction. Essentially a few hundred below invoice and then the 1500 rebate, but no loyalty for me as it was my first BMW. Money factor was higher at the time too .00130.

I think there is some backend dealer cash on these coupes... how much, who knows... but they were happy to go below invoice for me.

Good luck, sweet ride!!

That's a good deal. Did you put anything down? My MSRP is $62,125.

2015M4inCT · 05-10-2013, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Haywood

That's a good deal. Did you put anything down? My MSRP is $62,125.

Zero down. Just the upfront fees which totaled around $1700

bmwaddict · 05-11-2013, 03:47 AM

the monthly payment looks awesome. would you say this car is fully loaded? mind sharing your options you have on your car?

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Originally Posted by 335is2013

I was able to get my 2013 335is which stickered around 60k for 599/month including CT sales tax (7%) with no cap cost reduction. Essentially a few hundred below invoice and then the 1500 rebate, but no loyalty for me as it was my first BMW. Money factor was higher at the time too .00130.

I think there is some backend dealer cash on these coupes... how much, who knows... but they were happy to go below invoice for me.

Good luck, sweet ride!!

2015M4inCT · 05-11-2013, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwaddict

the monthly payment looks awesome. would you say this car is fully loaded? mind sharing your options you have on your car?

Alpine White
Saddle Brown Dakota leather
Harmon Kardon Premium Sound
19" tire/wheel package
Manual transmission

Comfort Key Access
Heated seats
Navigation

Total is 59,545
Payment is 560.00 before CT taxes (7%) which bring it to a nice psychologically friendly $599.00/month

15k miles/year
1700 out of pocket, no cap cost down
62% residual
.00130 money factor

Very happy with the deal. Even happier with the car

BMW is subsidizing these leases on the coupes with those residuals.

LMB335IS · 05-11-2013, 09:24 AM

They are definitely subsidizing up to a point. I'm hoping though that at the end of my lease, with a residual of $39k, I'll have only 16 to 17k on the odometer and the limited production will boost the value enough to make it worthwhile to buy and either keep or sell.

bmwaddict · 05-11-2013, 05:38 PM

wow! that was a great deal...i was able to get that last month (bellow), but i did not take it. hoping this month i will pull the trigger. WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD HAVE ASK THEM TO GET A BETTER DEAL? THX

PS: KEEP IN MIND THAT WAS LAST MONTH

2013 335is Coupe
Mineral White Metallic
Coral Red/Black Dakota Leather
6spd Manual transmission
Convenience Package
Premium Package
Premium Sound Package
Navigation System
19" 313 Wheels
BMW Apps

US MSRP - $60,095

US Invoice - $55,845

Your US Price - $56,445 + tax and license

36 month lease 10k miles per year

Total out of pocket - $3157.55 - $1500 (lease cash)= $1657.55 + DMV

Payment - $607.87 (includes FL sales tax 7% and DMV)

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Originally Posted by 335is2013

Alpine White
Saddle Brown Dakota leather
Harmon Kardon Premium Sound
19" tire/wheel package
Manual transmission

Comfort Key Access
Heated seats
Navigation

Total is 59,545
Payment is 560.00 before CT taxes (7%) which bring it to a nice psychologically friendly $599.00/month

15k miles/year
1700 out of pocket, no cap cost down
62% residual
.00130 money factor

Very happy with the deal. Even happier with the car

BMW is subsidizing these leases on the coupes with those residuals.

2015M4inCT · 05-11-2013, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmwaddict

wow! that was a great deal...i was able to get that last month (bellow), but i did not take it. hoping this month i will pull the trigger. WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD HAVE ASK THEM TO GET A BETTER DEAL? THX

PS: KEEP IN MIND THAT WAS LAST MONTH

I suppose it could potentially be difficult to secure a deal at this point. From what I've seen online, allocations for the 335is are down to a few across the US at this point. That could, I imagine, make it difficult to secure a great deal. Not sure. Either way, I would just try to be persistent. Good luck!

bmwaddict · 05-11-2013, 08:06 PM

ok thx!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335is2013

I suppose it could potentially be difficult to secure a deal at this point. From what I've seen online, allocations for the 335is are down to a few across the US at this point. That could, I imagine, make it difficult to secure a great deal. Not sure. Either way, I would just try to be persistent. Good luck!

LMB335IS · 05-11-2013, 09:07 PM

It looks like there's a couple in dealer inventory in the Tampa Bay area going through their online inventory but that might be all she wrote for the nearly extinct E92 as far as new goes. Speak now or forever hold your piece, as the saying goes.

Haywood · 05-11-2013, 09:13 PM

So, I ended up putting a deposit on the car. Pretty happy with my deal. Got more off invoice to get my payments down to $629 a month. That's paying first, taxes, title, and fees. Test drove a 2011 with DCT (yuck). Definitely felt stronger than my 135i. Looking forward to getting my car next weekend.

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LMB335IS Sua Sponte 1318 Rep 2,863 Posts Drives: 2013 LMB 335is Join Date: May 2008 Location: FOB FL iTrader: (21) Garage List 2013 BMW 335is [8.84]	That's crazy money. My 335is listed at $60095. My payment is $580 with 7% tax on a 10k/yr lease. Start up costs were $950 with Turn key credit and low mileage lease turn-in credit. And the MF was slightly higher (.0013) when I cut my deal. __________________ 335is/DCT-M3 GTS software-M3 drivetrain-M3 GWS-KOMBI-DSC-SZL/MHD/BQ Tuning IG@ClustersandCoding
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Haywood I know a thing or 2 about a thing or 2... 3164 Rep 3,501 Posts Drives: E36 M3 Coupe, e39 M5, G26 i4 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: LI, NY iTrader: (11) Garage List 2025 BMW G26 i4 eDr ... [0.00] 2003 BMW e39 M5 [0.00] 1997 BMW e36 M3 [0.00]	So, I got them down to invoice (this would be my 3rd BMW from them). $57,700 fully loaded (except manual). Paying first month's, taxes (3% in VA), title, etc. comes to $2400 so that would bring my payment to $666 per month for 15k month miles. Good deal? __________________ 2025 i4 eDrive40 Tanzanite Blue 2003 Le Mans Blue e39 M5 Dinan S1 1997 Alpine White e36 M3 (the old gal) 2013 Mineral White e92 M3 (sold) 2014 Carbon Black 650i M-sport (sold) Last edited by Haywood; 05-10-2013 at 03:33 PM..
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LMB335IS Sua Sponte 1318 Rep 2,863 Posts Drives: 2013 LMB 335is Join Date: May 2008 Location: FOB FL iTrader: (21) Garage List 2013 BMW 335is [8.84]	Much better. Here's a great website for money factors and leasing in general. It also has a lease calculator that gives you a rating on whether your lease is bad or good. http://www.ridewithg.com/ __________________ 335is/DCT-M3 GTS software-M3 drivetrain-M3 GWS-KOMBI-DSC-SZL/MHD/BQ Tuning IG@ClustersandCoding
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2015M4inCT Private First Class 96 Rep 199 Posts Drives: 2015 M4 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	I was able to get my 2013 335is which stickered around 60k for 599/month including CT sales tax (7%) with no cap cost reduction. Essentially a few hundred below invoice and then the 1500 rebate, but no loyalty for me as it was my first BMW. Money factor was higher at the time too .00130. I think there is some backend dealer cash on these coupes... how much, who knows... but they were happy to go below invoice for me. Good luck, sweet ride!!
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LMB335IS Sua Sponte 1318 Rep 2,863 Posts Drives: 2013 LMB 335is Join Date: May 2008 Location: FOB FL iTrader: (21) Garage List 2013 BMW 335is [8.84]	They are definitely subsidizing up to a point. I'm hoping though that at the end of my lease, with a residual of $39k, I'll have only 16 to 17k on the odometer and the limited production will boost the value enough to make it worthwhile to buy and either keep or sell. __________________ 335is/DCT-M3 GTS software-M3 drivetrain-M3 GWS-KOMBI-DSC-SZL/MHD/BQ Tuning IG@ClustersandCoding
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LMB335IS Sua Sponte 1318 Rep 2,863 Posts Drives: 2013 LMB 335is Join Date: May 2008 Location: FOB FL iTrader: (21) Garage List 2013 BMW 335is [8.84]	It looks like there's a couple in dealer inventory in the Tampa Bay area going through their online inventory but that might be all she wrote for the nearly extinct E92 as far as new goes. Speak now or forever hold your piece, as the saying goes. __________________ 335is/DCT-M3 GTS software-M3 drivetrain-M3 GWS-KOMBI-DSC-SZL/MHD/BQ Tuning IG@ClustersandCoding
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