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      07-27-2013, 07:26 PM   #1
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4 series vs 3 series

Just a question that's been on my mind

As we all know the new "4 series" will be the coupe or cabriolet version of the 3 series


Does this mean the owners of E92's and E93's will see a lesser depreciation as there cars were the final shape of the E9X models which were classed as 3 series ?


I own a E93 2012 and was just wondering
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      07-28-2013, 02:09 AM   #2
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2 sides to that coin

Heads: The 3 Series E92 and E93 have not been superseded with a later model

Tails: They've been obsoleted

In reality, I doubt a simple name is going to make any difference to the dynamics of depreciation....same way I doubt that anyone's going to buy a 4 Series who wouldn't have bought the same model if it had been left as a 3 Series.
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      07-28-2013, 03:06 AM   #3
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Nice logic but sadly flawed. As a superseded model there will be an increase in depreciation, more so for newer models of the last shape. All models still will take a hit.
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      07-28-2013, 04:39 AM   #4
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All models will drop in value with the new cars out. But a slight name change isn't going to make any difference to the coupe
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      07-28-2013, 05:18 AM   #5
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Thank you guys for replies


It's been on my mind for a few days you see ... I'm thinking of getting rid of her soon but don't know when's the best time to do so I don't get bummed on extreme depreciation
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Maybe not so straight forward as you may think. I can see quite a few E92/3 owners not moving to the 4 series. I certainly won't. I drive a E92 330D LCI. It's reasonably quick and very frugal; over two years of ownership it's averaging just over 45 mpg measured brim-to-brim.

There's no 430D, no 425D, and no 435D, just the 4-cylinder 420D. I don't fancy 30 mpg from the 430i, and guess there will be others of a similar mind. So I'll probably keep it a while longer than intended, then swap marques.

If other 6-cylinder diesel owners follow suite, ie hang on to their current vehicle, and given you can't buy a new one, then there will be a shortage. Usually restricted supply lowers depreciation. Only time will tell.
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      07-28-2013, 09:32 AM   #7
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Maybe not so straight forward as you may think. I can see quite a few E92/3 owners not moving to the 4 series. I certainly won't. I drive a E92 330D LCI. It's reasonably quick and very frugal; over two years of ownership it's averaging just over 45 mpg measured brim-to-brim.

There's no 430D, no 425D, and no 435D, just the 4-cylinder 420D. I don't fancy 30 mpg from the 430i, and guess there will be others of a similar mind. So I'll probably keep it a while longer than intended, then swap marques.

If other 6-cylinder diesel owners follow suite, ie hang on to their current vehicle, and given you can't buy a new one, then there will be a shortage. Usually restricted supply lowers depreciation. Only time will tell.
This is exactly what I was thinking off ... I couldn't have out it any better


I mean surely there's not a majority of people wouldn't just pay £40k+ for a car and would rather wait 3 years after they come of lease to purchase them ?

I don't know but my guy feeling says that our 3 series will generally see a lower depreciation rate as they are the last coupe / cabriolets and the other reason being the 4 series is a bit too expensive just to upgrade from a 3er as of yet

Even that presenter Chris Harris says the 4 series is lacking something

Only time will tell hey
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      07-28-2013, 10:05 AM   #8
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Just a question that's been on my mind

As we all know the new "4 series" will be the coupe or cabriolet version of the 3 series


Does this mean the owners of E92's and E93's will see a lesser depreciation as there cars were the final shape of the E9X models which were classed as 3 series ?


I own a E93 2012 and was just wondering
wouldn't worry the e93 looks a better car!
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      07-28-2013, 10:38 AM   #9
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Bigger engined 4 Series will be along in 3 to 6 months building up to the full range with better economy than E92/3.
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Maybe not so straight forward as you may think. I can see quite a few E92/3 owners not moving to the 4 series. I certainly won't. I drive a E92 330D LCI. It's reasonably quick and very frugal; over two years of ownership it's averaging just over 45 mpg measured brim-to-brim.

There's no 430D, no 425D, and no 435D, just the 4-cylinder 420D. I don't fancy 30 mpg from the 430i, and guess there will be others of a similar mind. So I'll probably keep it a while longer than intended, then swap marques.

If other 6-cylinder diesel owners follow suite, ie hang on to their current vehicle, and given you can't buy a new one, then there will be a shortage. Usually restricted supply lowers depreciation. Only time will tell.
6 cylinder 430 and 435ds to join the range next year. 428i (4 cylinder turbo) not 430i available and should do in excess of 30mpg easily. Only 6 cylinder petrol will be 435i from launch. But would you bother with the 313BHP 435d in the wings...?
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      07-29-2013, 07:49 AM   #11
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Yes agreed on the larger engines to follow. When the 3 series F30 came out there was no 325d, 330d or 335d for a while. Just hang on for a bit….. be aware that the 335d will probably be like the F30 and have xdrive.
There seems to be a lot of mixed reactions to the xdrive models (eg weight, lack of M Sport suspension so adaptive suspension is a must, higher ride height).

But...a diesel that accelerates to 60 as quick as the current M3 and prob do over 40 mpg has to be worth a look at.
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wouldn't worry the e93 looks a better car!
Until the F3x Convertible arrives then it wIll date over night!
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