DLS vs Morel vs Focal vs BMW individual

mathematics · 08-22-2013, 05:06 AM

Another shot

mathematics · 08-22-2013, 05:09 AM

Another shot with the grills on

kaigoss69 · 08-22-2013, 06:05 AM

Don,

What is the internal volume of the door board (assuming it is sealed). What is the available mounting depth? Can you pls PM me a price for an e90 for a set of door panels only, no crossovers, no drivers. Thx!

mathematics · 08-22-2013, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kaigoss69

Don,

What is the internal volume of the door board (assuming it is sealed). What is the available mounting depth? Can you pls PM me a price for an e90 for a set of door panels only, no crossovers, no drivers. Thx!

It's wide open. The door panel gets cut. Drivers use door as free-air.

rth32 · 08-22-2013, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by amilo123

Hello,

I am upgrading the sound system on my bmw e90, and can't decide between these spekers:

Focal 100 krs
Morel Virtus 402
DLS reference R4
DLS UP4 bmw
BMW individual speakers

I already have a JL HD 600/4 amp and a pair of sws8, so I want something with decent midbass.

Thank you!

I fitted DLS R4s to a previous E90 and they are slightly too deep and protrude into the window area making the window catch it and sluggish.

kaigoss69 · 08-22-2013, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kaigoss69

Don,

What is the internal volume of the door board (assuming it is sealed). What is the available mounting depth? Can you pls PM me a price for an e90 for a set of door panels only, no crossovers, no drivers. Thx!

It's wide open. The door panel gets cut. Drivers use door as free-air.

Oh I see. So you basically have to destroy the OEM door panel? The true cost would then be the cost of the door boards plus the OEM panels, correct? If so it does not seem worth it for me.

mathematics · 08-22-2013, 11:16 AM

yea, it's permanent. if you have these in your car and plan to sell the car, they're either staying in the car or you're replacing the entire factory door panel. for most people, they do it because they're keeping the car for a while. it's not for everyone. alternatively, you can have kick panels made for mid bass. before the door panels, i had 8" Dynaudio MW 172's in my kicks.

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Oh I see. So you basically have to destroy the OEM door panel? The true cost would then be the cost of the door boards plus the OEM panels, correct? If so it does not seem worth it for me.

cdgatti · 08-23-2013, 06:44 AM

How are the crossovers set between the underseats, the door woofers, the door mid and the tweeter?

mathematics · 08-23-2013, 08:44 AM

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How are the crossovers set between the underseats, the door woofers, the door mid and the tweeter?

What do you mean how are the crossovers set?

kaigoss69 · 08-23-2013, 08:51 AM

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What do you mean how are the crossovers set?

I think he means what are the crossover points and slopes of the passive 3-way crossover. I'd like to know, too.

mathematics · 08-23-2013, 09:04 AM

can't find the info on crossover points/slopes on their website and I just looked at my crossovers and it doesn't say on it either.

ctuna · 08-23-2013, 11:48 AM

Mathematics ,How is the existing map holder cut?
As in how much of it gets cut in what shape?
Have you had in rattles or annoying vibration?

mathematics · 08-23-2013, 12:47 PM

i'd say the cutout hole is roughly the same shape as the new door card but 75% smaller than it. so, it's a decent chunk that comes out. my door panels and the doors themselves are layered in STP Black Magic sound deadening. Nothing in my door rattles. It's like a lead brick.

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Originally Posted by ctuna

Mathematics ,How is the existing map holder cut?
As in how much of it gets cut in what shape?
Have you had in rattles or annoying vibration?

D's Bimmer · 09-21-2013, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kaigoss69

If I were you I'd be looking for used Hybrids!

I just purchased the Morel hybrids. Simply amazing! Now need to decided whether to upgrade my underneath woofers and rears.

tattoorific · 11-29-2013, 12:07 PM

Just installed the DLS UP4's all I can say is amazing. They were simple to install and sounds 10 times better than factory. If anyone needs them PM me I can get the hook up for all of us..

BMW for life!

View Poll Results: Best of these for midbass? (around $400)
Focal 100 krs	13	31.71%
Morel Virtus 402	12	29.27%
DLS refference R4	3	7.32%
DLS UP4 bmw	6	14.63%
other	7	17.07%
Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

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mathematics Captain 71 Rep 994 Posts Drives: 08 328i e93 alpine white Join Date: May 2009 Location: Queens, NY iTrader: (0)	can't find the info on crossover points/slopes on their website and I just looked at my crossovers and it doesn't say on it either. __________________ iPhone 6 Plus (iTunes library/iTunes radio/Waze, etc) to Airport Express via AirPlay. Toslink out of Airport Express to Helix P-Six DSP. PHD AF 1.C tweeters, PHD FB 4.1 midranges. Jehnert Door Cards and mid-bass'.
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