[idrift4wd]

Originally Posted by Charlie@McKennaBMWService

Agreed SRT8's are slow AF... All bark and no bite...

You obviously have only raced stock SRT's or some bolt-ons. Boost the SRT or build the engine and 335 will be toast.

[Charlie@McKennaBMWService]

Originally Posted by idrift4wd

You obviously have only raced stock SRT's or some bolt-ons. Boost the SRT or build the engine and 335 will be toast.

Yeah a lightly modded 2013 Chrysler 300C SRT8, both Challenger and Charger SRT8's... Not very fast IMO(in stock form), compared to stock M5's/E63 AMG's, and this if of course solely based on driving stock cars.

[BQTuning]

Originally Posted by Ingeniator

Ok so dude at work has a 1 series he sent the car to .... and had 12k of dinan parts installed. Yet he can't pull a SRT8 why would anyone spend money on this. If you want a warranty that bad stay stock or put the extra 6k in the spare engine fund lol. Anyone have any idea what he paid for yet got no benefit from I don't know what the srt8 was or if it had mods got the story third hand from a vette owner.

Its not the mods that is the issue its the Dinan software. More than likely he paid for Dinan's stage 3 plus more hardware at that price

1. FMIC
2. FFE
3. CAI
4. OC
5. Tune

[stanlalee]

Originally Posted by BoostedE90

^^I would love to hear his explanation but I don't think I can sit through 98 mins of it.

EDIT: Found it. Starts at 78:53

You can start at the 79 minute mark. He slipped in quite a few BMS disses (and piggybacks in general) without calling names.

edit: never mind you found it lol

[chumley]

While I would NEVER buy Dinan parts and I'd hate to be viewed as defending them because I do think the value is poor, I would throw out there that there's a huge difference between designing parts and working with a company like BMW and meeting the requirements of being sold/installed at the dealerships vs. what many of the vendors here do - which in most cases is working out of a couple hundred sq ft of industrial park space or their parent's garage.

I've generally had good experiences with the vendors selling parts here but many if not most are just figuring out how to import parts from Asia and are hoping to mark it up and call it a day. It's not like any of the tuners have any liability of engines fail or parts break for example. I'm a fan of Shiv's but Procede install instructions and documentation is a years-old YouTube video and a dated manual put together by users, not him - and that's perfectly fine because the price reflects it.

As far as cosmetic parts, I've bought enough to know that I doubt 2/3rds of the parts sold here would even make it through the front door of an oem with respect to QC and fitment.

[Killerfish2012]

It's just simple econmics folks. Dinan provided the very first flash tune for the vehicle, and backed it up with an engine warranty--> Dinan payed for several blown engine replacements (parts and Labor), no questions asked-->Dinan then raised the prices on their parts.

[MDORPHN]

Originally Posted by chumley

While I would NEVER buy Dinan parts and I'd hate to be viewed as defending them because I do think the value is poor, I would throw out there that there's a huge difference between designing parts and working with a company like BMW and meeting the requirements of being sold/installed at the dealerships vs. what many of the vendors here do - which in most cases is working out of a couple hundred sq ft of industrial park space or their parent's garage.

I've generally had good experiences with the vendors selling parts here but many if not most are just figuring out how to import parts from Asia and are hoping to mark it up and call it a day. It's not like any of the tuners have any liability of engines fail or parts break for example. I'm a fan of Shiv's but Procede install instructions and documentation is a years-old YouTube video and a dated manual put together by users, not him - and that's perfectly fine because the price reflects it.

As far as cosmetic parts, I've bought enough to know that I doubt 2/3rds of the parts sold here would even make it through the front door of an oem with respect to QC and fitment.

Dinan no longer has a "special" relationship with BMWNA as BMW is now selling its own performance parts.

In any event, Dinan's relationship was always with the marketing/sales end and was never with BMW's engineers.

Neil

[evoix]

Originally Posted by Charlie@McKennaBMWService

Yeah a lightly modded 2013 Chrysler 300C SRT8, both Challenger and Charger SRT8's... Not very fast IMO(in stock form), compared to stock M5's/E63 AMG's, and this if of course solely based on driving stock cars.

They are not that far off tho for thousands of dollars less. Then start adding some mopar tune and upgrades and bmw is toast.

Everyone with a jb4 tune with minor mods I have ever met swear up and down their cars are unbeatable. Hate that cocky attitude. I love my 335i but a lightly modded evo will take out a jb4 335 out hands down and I have seen it and done it!

[ajsalida]

Originally Posted by Killerfish2012

It's just simple econmics folks. Dinan provided the very first flash tune for the vehicle, and backed it up with an engine warranty--> Dinan payed for several blown engine replacements (parts and Labor), no questions asked-->Dinan then raised the prices on their parts.

Nah, just continuing same sub par mods with premium pricing and LOTS of marketing to unsophisticated types. Been doing it for decades, N54 was just latest version of that.

[Mit_Boost]

Short Version -- The Dinan tune is VERY conservative. Especially because they replace BMWs Factory Warranty with their own, so they don't wanna replace anything they don't have to (like Turbos from high WG Duty Cycle).

The Dinan hardware (FMIC, Intake, Exhaust, Suspension, etc) is all VERY good stuff, but it certainly has a price premium.

[ThatBlackE92]

Originally Posted by idrift4wd

You obviously have only raced stock SRT's or some bolt-ons. Boost the SRT or build the engine and 335 will be toast.

Even then.. Nothing to brag about. In my old Evo VIII I've ran heads/cam srt8 chryslers and procharged charger .. Nothing to brag about. They're heavy, very heavy . I was making 456 on gt28 and was walking them out..

[Charlie@McKennaBMWService]

Originally Posted by evoix

They are not that far off tho for thousands of dollars less. Then start adding some mopar tune and upgrades and bmw is toast.

Everyone with a jb4 tune with minor mods I have ever met swear up and down their cars are unbeatable. Hate that cocky attitude. I love my 335i but a lightly modded evo will take out a jb4 335 out hands down and I have seen it and done it!

This is very true... But to each their own, my stage 3 STi used to murder anything with a BMW badge, but fortunately I am now a representation of the brand and a living testament to the product, love my M3, so much I got a second one, hahaha.

[CPWINCH]

Originally Posted by evoix

They are not that far off tho for thousands of dollars less. Then start adding some mopar tune and upgrades and bmw is toast.

Everyone with a jb4 tune with minor mods I have ever met swear up and down their cars are unbeatable. Hate that cocky attitude. I love my 335i but a lightly modded evo will take out a jb4 335 out hands down and I have seen it and done it!

my buddy has a FBO evo X with a cobb tune and i would walk him everytime in my fbo n55