[fdawg4l]

As has been said,It's cheaper to replace the whole arm than have new bushings pressed in. My steering is super quick now. Def an improvement.

[mlifxs]

Originally Posted by dohctec

But the bushing alone will not give you the additional neg- camber. I thought that's how the M CA's where design, with more play and lean. I'm a noob, so this is all personal experience. I picked up the set last month and the two pieces (m vs non m) are dramatically different in design and weight. Again, I am a noob.

fyi OP shows the tension struts. It's the m3 wishbones (not this) that adds neg camber.

[dohctec]

Originally Posted by mlifxs

fyi OP shows the tension struts. It's the m3 wishbones (not this) that adds neg camber.

Ah, my bad. Sorry.

[Jdub679]

Originally Posted by mlifxs

fyi OP shows the tension struts. It's the m3 wishbones (not this) that adds neg camber.

Are these also called "thrust arms"?

[mlifxs]

Originally Posted by Jdub679

Are these also called "thrust arms"?

I suspect yes but I'm not sure. tension strut seems to be official name, shown on realoem.

[amsnow440]

Originally Posted by mlifxs

fyi OP shows the tension struts. It's the m3 wishbones (not this) that adds neg camber.

This.

[Jdub679]

Originally Posted by amsnow440

This.

Nice! I never bothered to take photos of mine before install. Thanks for clearing that up for everyone.

[Nickanna]

So other than the Control arms and control arm struts, is there anything else one would need to do the refresh on the front end? (besides sub-frame bushings)
The kit I'm looking at is a 5 piece TRW. Although I don't have adaptive headlights, so the leveling rod is useless for me.

This is on my to-do list for next month.

[amsnow440]

Originally Posted by Jdub679

Nice! I never bothered to take photos of mine before install. Thanks for clearing that up for everyone.

No problem, glad to help!

Originally Posted by Nickanna

So other than the Control arms and control arm struts, is there anything else one would need to do the refresh on the front end? (besides sub-frame bushings)
The kit I'm looking at is a 5 piece TRW. Although I don't have adaptive headlights, so the leveling rod is useless for me.

This is on my to-do list for next month.

Depends on your definition of refresh. Without knowing your other mods or mileage, there is the M3 front sway bar with bushings, M3 strut tower brace, and the upgraded toe adjustment arms. I'm on my phone now so I couldn't provide the links. HP autowerks has all the parts.

[Nickanna]

Originally Posted by amsnow440

Depends on your definition of refresh. Without knowing your other mods or milage, there is the M3 front sway bar with bushings, M3 strut tower brace, and the upgraded toe adjustment arms. I'm on my phone now so I couldn't provide the links. HP autowerks has all the parts.

Thanks! 90K on the car with Eibach sport springs and Koni shocks all around (modest drop). I have the m-sport sways (F/R) sitting in my garage, so I thought as I do the work to the F/R, I'd swap out my standard ones at that time.

As far as the refresh, just looking to do the popular bushing refresh everyone talks about, starting with the front and then moving to the rear at a later date. M3 upgrade parts seems to be the way to go as I'll keep my ride for another 2-3 years and want to continue to enjoy it.

[amsnow440]

Originally Posted by Nickanna

Thanks! 90K on the car with Eibach sport springs and Koni shocks all around (modest drop). I have the m-sport sways (F/R) sitting in my garage, so I thought as I do the work to the F/R, I'd swap out my standard ones at that time.

As far as the refresh, just looking to do the popular bushing refresh everyone talks about, starting with the front and then moving to the rear at a later date. M3 upgrade parts seems to be the way to go as I'll keep my ride for another 2-3 years and want to continue to enjoy it.

No problem, just so you know the subframe bushings you are referring to are for the rear subframe. Those are the ones everyone replaces with the M3 variants.

[hgmotorsports]

Originally Posted by mlifxs

the m3 arm ball joints are also a lot stronger from what i recall. the wishbones are slightly longer and attach at the bottom of the hub assembly , which adds negative camber. You might save money but I don't think you'll get the full effect of the whole control arm.

Originally Posted by mlifxs

fyi OP shows the tension struts. It's the m3 wishbones (not this) that adds neg camber.

Bingo on both accounts. You can add a different bushing into your stock upper tension arms and get a relatively same effect in terms of cutting down on deflection, but the lower wishbone will give you that extra negative camber. You can also add in monoball bearings in the tension arm for literally no deflection. The ride quality doesn't change much either.

-Mike

[Nickanna]

Originally Posted by amsnow440

No problem, just so you know the subframe bushings you are referring to are for the rear subframe. Those are the ones everyone replaces with the M3 variants.

Correct.