BMW PE vs Eisenmann(GTHaus) both with DPs and 2nd cat delete

napeHbNYC · 10-16-2013, 09:57 PM

Did the search but most compares are for just the mufflers. What do you guys think of PE vs GTHaus(Eisenmann) both with catless DPs and resonators in place of secondary cats. Thank you!

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 10-16-2013, 10:15 PM

If you got the money get eisenmann. Keep in mind your paying for the name mostly. Although it is quality the performance from either is negligible.

135Pats · 10-16-2013, 10:27 PM

Meisterschaft.

napeHbNYC · 10-16-2013, 10:50 PM

I have PE with catless DPs and vibrant resonators now. Just thinking if it's worth the switch.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 10-16-2013, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by napeHbNYC

I have PE with catless DPs and vibrant resonators now. Just thinking if it's worth the switch.

Worth it is hard to understand when you have different values then other people.

What is it you want out of the eisenmann that you dont have in your current setup?

napeHbNYC · 10-17-2013, 12:07 AM

I love my setup in the lower RPMs- its throaty, gurgles and deep. But when I get on it is what I am not really fond of. It does not sound exotic if I can say it, like its missing something up top. I have never heard Eisenmann in person that is why turned to ask here. As I said, I do have catless dps and vibrant resonators in place of cats, so the install will be just replacing the PE mufflers.

Thank you for the help!

napeHbNYC · 10-23-2013, 11:05 AM

To answer my own question, there is a difference in the exhausts. I have gotten a real Eisenmann and love it. Not sure if it worth the value of a new one, but definitely worth it's money in a used form lol. The more is more refined through out the band and sound slightly deeper and throatier than PE. My main beef with PE was the top end sound and Eisenmann solves the problem perfect. Deep at low rpms switching to high pitchy up top. Thank you for the input of those who did.

caliguy562 · 10-23-2013, 12:17 PM

Can you post a video, as I'm in the same predicament myself.

Dr. G · 10-23-2013, 05:52 PM

Hmm now I want to try out the eisenmann....

F80Mmm · 10-23-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by napeHbNYC

To answer my own question, there is a difference in the exhausts. I have gotten a real Eisenmann and love it. Not sure if it worth the value of a new one, but definitely worth it's money in a used form lol. The more is more refined through out the band and sound slightly deeper and throatier than PE. My main beef with PE was the top end sound and Eisenmann solves the problem perfect. Deep at low rpms switching to high pitchy up top. Thank you for the input of those who did.

I'm assuming this is the "race" version? I'm considering this now after installing my VRSF DP's....just ordered the 7" VRSF FMIC so this seems like this will be my best bet since performance is now practically maxed out. PM me if anyone is looking to get rid of their e90 Eisenmann Race

napeHbNYC · 10-23-2013, 10:35 PM

It is race. I will try to get clips.

theriz · 10-23-2013, 11:38 PM

GTHuas and E-Race = really loud below 3k rpm's. snap crackle pop son!! Long said my car is one of the loudest 335i's he's heard.

PE - gradually gets louder..

napeHbNYC · 10-25-2013, 01:48 PM

Cold start. No tips yet and no clamps on the exhaust as well yet. Just did a quick vid for you guys.

135Pats · 10-25-2013, 02:00 PM

Just want to make sure everyone’s clear here…. The “GTHaus” Eisenmann exhaust was not, how shall we say, legitimate. They mended fences after, rebooted as Meisterschaft, and have since been making awesome exhaust products. But they have absolutely nothing to do with Eisenmann, nada.

So OP do you mean an actual Eisenmann race vs BMWP? Or Meisterschaft race vs BMWP. Regardless both the Eisenmann and Meisterschaft offerings will be louder than BMWP, they’re both very aggressive and a bit boomy IMO.

napeHbNYC · 10-25-2013, 02:05 PM

I am talking about an actual Eisenman and that is what I have. What do you mean by boomy?

135Pats · 10-25-2013, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by napeHbNYC

I am talking about an actual Eisenman and that is what I have. What do you mean by boomy?

OK cool, just wanted to be sure everyone was talking about the same thing. The “boomy” tone I speak of is just the nature of an aggressive exhaust on a turbo I6. The general tone of the N54 is always going to be a deep bass, and a “race” muffler setup will only accentuate that. I don’t mind it one bit, but that’s absolutely a characteristic of the motor for sure. Find a VQ Nissan/Infiniti and you’ll see how much deeper the tone of your exhaust is.

GTHAUS · 02-25-2014, 01:36 PM

Navigate to around 35 seconds for cat-less turbo-back sound

ken1137 · 02-25-2014, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GTHAUS

Navigate to around 35 seconds for cat-less turbo-back sound

Oh yeah !

Love this setup on the 1M. Too bad I have neighbors.

mashimarho · 02-25-2014, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GTHAUS

Navigate to around 35 seconds for cat-less turbo-back sound

Keep in mind this is an N55 not an N54

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napeHbNYC Major 251 Rep 1,003 Posts Drives: 2007 e60 550i RWD 6MT Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: NY,NY iTrader: (7)	BMW PE vs Eisenmann(GTHaus) both with DPs and 2nd cat delete Did the search but most compares are for just the mufflers. What do you guys think of PE vs GTHaus(Eisenmann) both with catless DPs and resonators in place of secondary cats. Thank you! __________________ 2010 Alpine White E90 335i RWD 6MT M/Premium/Cold
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135Pats Major General 461 Rep 6,478 Posts Drives: A few BMWs Join Date: May 2012 Location: Maryland iTrader: (3)	Meisterschaft. __________________ E88 N54 Alpinweiss/Coral Red/Motiv HTA 3586r Tial .82AR/Other stuff...652WHP F30 N55 XDrive EBII
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napeHbNYC Major 251 Rep 1,003 Posts Drives: 2007 e60 550i RWD 6MT Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: NY,NY iTrader: (7)	I have PE with catless DPs and vibrant resonators now. Just thinking if it's worth the switch. __________________ 2010 Alpine White E90 335i RWD 6MT M/Premium/Cold
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10-17-2013, 12:07 AM	#6
napeHbNYC Major 251 Rep 1,003 Posts Drives: 2007 e60 550i RWD 6MT Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: NY,NY iTrader: (7)	I love my setup in the lower RPMs- its throaty, gurgles and deep. But when I get on it is what I am not really fond of. It does not sound exotic if I can say it, like its missing something up top. I have never heard Eisenmann in person that is why turned to ask here. As I said, I do have catless dps and vibrant resonators in place of cats, so the install will be just replacing the PE mufflers. Thank you for the help! __________________ 2010 Alpine White E90 335i RWD 6MT M/Premium/Cold
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10-23-2013, 11:05 AM	#7
napeHbNYC Major 251 Rep 1,003 Posts Drives: 2007 e60 550i RWD 6MT Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: NY,NY iTrader: (7)	To answer my own question, there is a difference in the exhausts. I have gotten a real Eisenmann and love it. Not sure if it worth the value of a new one, but definitely worth it's money in a used form lol. The more is more refined through out the band and sound slightly deeper and throatier than PE. My main beef with PE was the top end sound and Eisenmann solves the problem perfect. Deep at low rpms switching to high pitchy up top. Thank you for the input of those who did. __________________ 2010 Alpine White E90 335i RWD 6MT M/Premium/Cold
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10-23-2013, 12:17 PM	#8
caliguy562 Lieutenant 8 Rep 476 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: garaged somewhere in soCal iTrader: (3)	Can you post a video, as I'm in the same predicament myself.
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napeHbNYC Major 251 Rep 1,003 Posts Drives: 2007 e60 550i RWD 6MT Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: NY,NY iTrader: (7)	It is race. I will try to get clips. __________________ 2010 Alpine White E90 335i RWD 6MT M/Premium/Cold
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theriz Brigadier General 409 Rep 3,583 Posts Drives: 2017 M3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ventura County, CA iTrader: (2) Garage List 2017 F80 M3 [0.00] 2011 335i M-Sport [4.00] 2015 M3 [0.00] 2009 X5 [10.00]	GTHuas and E-Race = really loud below 3k rpm's. snap crackle pop son!! Long said my car is one of the loudest 335i's he's heard. PE - gradually gets louder..
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10-25-2013, 01:48 PM	#13
napeHbNYC Major 251 Rep 1,003 Posts Drives: 2007 e60 550i RWD 6MT Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: NY,NY iTrader: (7)	Cold start. No tips yet and no clamps on the exhaust as well yet. Just did a quick vid for you guys.
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135Pats Major General 461 Rep 6,478 Posts Drives: A few BMWs Join Date: May 2012 Location: Maryland iTrader: (3)	Just want to make sure everyone’s clear here…. The “GTHaus” Eisenmann exhaust was not, how shall we say, legitimate. They mended fences after, rebooted as Meisterschaft, and have since been making awesome exhaust products. But they have absolutely nothing to do with Eisenmann, nada. So OP do you mean an actual Eisenmann race vs BMWP? Or Meisterschaft race vs BMWP. Regardless both the Eisenmann and Meisterschaft offerings will be louder than BMWP, they’re both very aggressive and a bit boomy IMO. __________________ E88 N54 Alpinweiss/Coral Red/Motiv HTA 3586r Tial .82AR/Other stuff...652WHP F30 N55 XDrive EBII
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napeHbNYC Major 251 Rep 1,003 Posts Drives: 2007 e60 550i RWD 6MT Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: NY,NY iTrader: (7)	I am talking about an actual Eisenman and that is what I have. What do you mean by boomy? __________________ 2010 Alpine White E90 335i RWD 6MT M/Premium/Cold
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02-25-2014, 01:36 PM	#17
GTHAUS Major 195 Rep 1,046 Posts Drives: G82 M4 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Navigate to around 35 seconds for cat-less turbo-back sound
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