5 Codes today

007_e350 · 03-26-2014, 09:47 PM

Hey guys, I filled 5 Gals of E85 100 miles ago with 7 Gals of 93 - car started taking longer cranks which was fine but this afternoon it would start and RPM bouncing from 1500 - 400 .. Radiator Fan going full bloom (its 20 degs outside!!!!!!!!) ... I shut it down, turn back on same ... drove home w half engine light read codes :

30BE - Injector calibration plausibility
2B2C - throttle valve initialization - bank 1
29F2 - high fuel pressure system, fuel pressure
29DC - cyl injection - switch off

(car is BONE STOCK)

new2the3 · 03-26-2014, 10:03 PM

HPFP might be the main culprit, why use E85 in a stock car? There is no point

007_e350 · 03-26-2014, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by new2the3

HPFP might be the main culprit, why use E85 in a stock car? There is no point

I was gonna tune but........ anyway I filled in another 7 Gals of 93 to dilute the E85 but not helping, has it fried out ?

007_e350 · 03-27-2014, 12:34 PM

help .... 29dc .... do I need new LPFP ?

David1 · 03-27-2014, 12:53 PM

You can not run E85 on a stock (335) car especially if it's cold out. I have seen to many loaner cars towed in where people tried to go cheap on filling the tank with E85. Guess what, tow from near the gas station or while there.

Ingeniator · 03-27-2014, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 007_e350

Hey guys, I filled 5 Gals of E85 100 miles ago with 7 Gals of 93 - car started taking longer cranks which was fine but this afternoon it would start and RPM bouncing from 1500 - 400 .. Radiator Fan going full bloom (its 20 degs outside!!!!!!!!) ... I shut it down, turn back on same ... drove home w half engine light read codes :

30BE - Injector calibration plausibility
2B2C - throttle valve initialization - bank 1
29F2 - high fuel pressure system, fuel pressure
29DC - cyl injection - switch off

(car is BONE STOCK)

You were trying to run E60 on a stock car. I bet your fuel trims were maxed LP fuel was low and you cooked your HPFP. You sent it for a loop. Make sure you clear your codes and reset adaptations. You might be able to get it to come back around if you stay stock.

007_e350 · 03-27-2014, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by David1

You can not run E85 on a stock (335) car especially if it's cold out. I have seen to many loaner cars towed in where people tried to go cheap on filling the tank with E85. Guess what, tow from near the gas station or while there.

so whats the way out, empty the tank ? or pump's fried ? 29dc would be LPFP ?

David1 · 03-27-2014, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 007_e350

so whats the way out, empty the tank ? or pump's fried ? 29dc would be LPFP ?

Burn it out by running the car or drain it.

007_e350 · 03-27-2014, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ingeniator

You were trying to run E60 on a stock car. I bet your fuel trims were maxed LP fuel was low and you cooked your HPFP. You sent it for a loop. Make sure you clear your codes and reset adaptations. You might be able to get it to come back around if you stay stock.

great thanks - will advise after burning tank out

007_e350 · 03-27-2014, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 007_e350

great thanks - will advise after burning tank out

Guys its not drivable, engine is throbbing pretty bad ... 29F2 code this time (High pressure Fuel System: Fuel pressure) - If I get it towed to the dealer can they detect E85 ? Currently it has 5 Gals atleast in the full tank + Chevron Techron Inj cleaner

Supra2k6 · 03-27-2014, 11:40 PM

Hpfp has warranty until 110k I believe but even if they replace it you still have e85 in the car weather they find out or not. So I would deff drain it fill it up with 93 and take it to the dealership.

David1 · 03-28-2014, 09:59 AM

They will test the fuel and if you have more than 15% the bill is on you. You need to get the e85 out of it. It only takes them 10 minutes to test the fuel. My dealership has samples from the stations near it on display in the shop. When they test fuel presure, they will test a sample.

007_e350 · 03-29-2014, 04:01 AM

I removed the rear seat and pulled the fuel pump cover off - there are two hoses going into the pump, which one should I siphon the fuel off of ? Or do I need to pull the fuel pump out ??

David1 · 03-29-2014, 01:21 PM

You just need a syphon kit from the parts store.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 03-29-2014, 02:34 PM

+1 on syphoning it out.

Mike

TeinBMW · 03-29-2014, 03:13 PM

Ouch e85 on stock car

007_e350 · 03-30-2014, 04:08 PM

Its done - had to slightly pull the pump out to insert hose into the fuel tank - dealer was asking me abt the fuel smell in the car lol

03-26-2014, 09:47 PM	#1
007_e350 Lieutenant Colonel 226 Rep 1,909 Posts Drives: 335i 2008 MHD'd / x5d E70 Join Date: May 2013 Location: left lane iTrader: (3)	5 Codes today - Half engine light Hey guys, I filled 5 Gals of E85 100 miles ago with 7 Gals of 93 - car started taking longer cranks which was fine but this afternoon it would start and RPM bouncing from 1500 - 400 .. Radiator Fan going full bloom (its 20 degs outside!!!!!!!!) ... I shut it down, turn back on same ... drove home w half engine light read codes : 30BE - Injector calibration plausibility 2B2C - throttle valve initialization - bank 1 29F2 - high fuel pressure system, fuel pressure 29DC - cyl injection - switch off (car is BONE STOCK)
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03-26-2014, 10:03 PM	#2
new2the3 Colonel 392 Rep 2,067 Posts Drives: 2020 X3M Competition Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	HPFP might be the main culprit, why use E85 in a stock car? There is no point __________________ 2020 X3MC 2009 135i: AW/CR Aluminum Trim, 6 speed, M-Sport, Premium, Heated Seats, Ipod, BMW Performance Pedals, BMW Performance SSK, BMW Performance Exhaust, BMW Performance Grills E93 M3 FSB
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007_e350 Lieutenant Colonel 226 Rep 1,909 Posts Drives: 335i 2008 MHD'd / x5d E70 Join Date: May 2013 Location: left lane iTrader: (3)	help .... 29dc .... do I need new LPFP ?
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David1 Brigadier General 945 Rep 4,035 Posts Drives: 09 E92 09 X5 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Columbus, OH iTrader: (1)	You can not run E85 on a stock (335) car especially if it's cold out. I have seen to many loaner cars towed in where people tried to go cheap on filling the tank with E85. Guess what, tow from near the gas station or while there. __________________ 2021 M2 Comp Sunset Orange \|Black with orange Stitching Dakota Leather\|Executive Pkg\|DCT
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03-27-2014, 11:40 PM	#11
Supra2k6 Lieutenant 132 Rep 573 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: The District iTrader: (1)	Hpfp has warranty until 110k I believe but even if they replace it you still have e85 in the car weather they find out or not. So I would deff drain it fill it up with 93 and take it to the dealership.
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03-28-2014, 09:59 AM	#12
David1 Brigadier General 945 Rep 4,035 Posts Drives: 09 E92 09 X5 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Columbus, OH iTrader: (1)	They will test the fuel and if you have more than 15% the bill is on you. You need to get the e85 out of it. It only takes them 10 minutes to test the fuel. My dealership has samples from the stations near it on display in the shop. When they test fuel presure, they will test a sample. __________________ 2021 M2 Comp Sunset Orange \|Black with orange Stitching Dakota Leather\|Executive Pkg\|DCT
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03-29-2014, 04:01 AM	#13
007_e350 Lieutenant Colonel 226 Rep 1,909 Posts Drives: 335i 2008 MHD'd / x5d E70 Join Date: May 2013 Location: left lane iTrader: (3)	I removed the rear seat and pulled the fuel pump cover off - there are two hoses going into the pump, which one should I siphon the fuel off of ? Or do I need to pull the fuel pump out ??
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03-29-2014, 01:21 PM	#14
David1 Brigadier General 945 Rep 4,035 Posts Drives: 09 E92 09 X5 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Columbus, OH iTrader: (1)	You just need a syphon kit from the parts store. __________________ 2021 M2 Comp Sunset Orange \|Black with orange Stitching Dakota Leather\|Executive Pkg\|DCT
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Mike@N54Tuning.com Joint Chiefs of Staff 5035 Rep 116,174 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: N54tuning.com iTrader: (89)	+1 on syphoning it out. Mike
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TeinBMW Lieutenant Colonel 134 Rep 1,946 Posts Drives: 2011 335xi Msport, Conv, Tech Join Date: May 2013 Location: Calgary iTrader: (2) Garage List 2011 BMW 335xi [7.00]	Ouch e85 on stock car __________________ \|11 335XI N55 \| M SPORT \| VRSF CP \| BMW PE \| BMS INSTAKE \| VRSF 7" IC \| MHD STAGE 2+ \| ER CP \|
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03-30-2014, 04:08 PM	#17
007_e350 Lieutenant Colonel 226 Rep 1,909 Posts Drives: 335i 2008 MHD'd / x5d E70 Join Date: May 2013 Location: left lane iTrader: (3)	Its done - had to slightly pull the pump out to insert hose into the fuel tank - dealer was asking me abt the fuel smell in the car lol
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