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      05-02-2014, 02:45 AM   #23
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Yes I seen it, again I think that route will be better because your just running an extra HPFP that's belt driven and you don't need all the extra stuff that you would with secondary port injection. The diesel guys have been doing this for a long time and it works very well

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Yes I seen it, again I think that route will be better because your just running an extra HPFP that's belt driven and you don't need all the extra stuff that you would with secondary port injection. The diesel guys have been doing this for a long time and it works very well
At least there are now two options to solve the same problem.

I like this one because of the added benefits of reduced carbon build up on the valves.
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At least there are now two options to solve the same problem.

I like this one because of the added benefits of reduced carbon build up on the valves.
Don't get me wrong the more options the better I think both options are outstanding and both have the pros and cons, you just have to see what suits your needs better and which one ultimately gets the job done with the least amount of complications/ease of install/ longevity
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I would much rather run this setup to be honest than another miserably unreliable OEM HPFP. The reason I love this approach is that we get to keep DI for all its benefits and just supplement fuel when necessary but do it the most correct way with actual fuel injectors spraying into the port with appropriate atomization and fuel control and not methanol down the charge pipe splattering everywhere praying everything is flowung well. I love meth but I am not one to give it thumbs up in high horsepower setups the way everyone runs it these days on the N54.
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Its funny following this since we were doing this with mazdaspeeds roughly 4/5 months ago.

Will we be running this off of a split second tuner, and running a secondary tank, or are you guys working on something to Y off of using a bigger pump and factory tank?
Take a look at some of the ptf names and tuners such as our superstar Nishan and close friends Pablo over at speed performance. We tune Mazdaspeed and focus st platforms as well. Definitely not using split second. All will be very detailed and public very soon. Full solutions allowing for near limitless power is our end goal for the n54. From fueling to turbo kits to billet drive shafts and more. Our philosophy is just because something works doesn't mean it works right. We will release a full performance line that we have spent what feels like forever developing and testing. We are so secretive because we test multiple things and only develop what works the best. We dont want to announce products until they are 100% ready to prove they are the best.

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Take a look at some of the ptf names and tuners such as our superstar Nishan and close friends Pablo over at speed performance. We tune Mazdaspeed and focus st platforms as well. Definitely not using split second. All will be very detailed and public very soon. Full solutions allowing for near limitless power is our end goal for the n54. From fueling to turbo kits to billet drive shafts and more. Our philosophy is just because something works doesn't mean it works right. We will release a full performance line that we have spent what feels like forever developing and testing. We are so secretive because we test multiple things and only develop what works the best. We dont want to announce products until they are 100% ready to prove they are the best.
Of course! I know pablo lol he was doing alot with us on one of our speed3 shop cars. And nishan is a good friend lf the owner of the speed. Pablo built our first motor and supplied us with the secondary injection. But as far as not using that for tuning idk what you would be using unless an 034 box or aem... Its stacked on top the cobb tuner with the speed, i dont see why not use the same for the n54

Looking forward to seeing what you guys release!

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Of course! I know pablo lol he was doing alot with us on one of our speed3 shop cars. And nishan is a good friend lf the owner of the speed. Pablo built our first motor and supplied us with the secondary injection. But as far as not using that for tuning idk what you would be using unless an 034 box or aem... Its stacked on top the cobb tuner with the speed, i dont see why not use the same for the n54

Looking forward to seeing what you guys release!
Saw the inquiry on the Ohio big turbo MS3
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Saw the inquiry on the Ohio big turbo MS3
hehe wish we could get the kinks with that car worked out

Im currently not even waiting for fueling, as my car is still on stocks. Trying to max the potential on them before we switch over to a big single. Ohio loves big turbo cars lol

Like i said, looking forward to what you guys release because we will be needing it, and if its anything like he ms3 stuff, even better since we have already had time to work with it
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Nice, looking forward to see how this goes.
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