[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by Driver72

I guessed quite some time ago the C63 was going to take the e92 M3 in staight line.
But I didn't know it was going to be that fast!!
12.3 @ 116 mph is 2008 LS3 436 hp Corvette times.

I'm sure the c63 is underrated by 20-30 hp to "protect" the CLK and E Class cars.
The 7 speed auto helps a bunch too. Close ratios and super fast shifts.

The M3's times are good.
What I don't get is why it's only getting a 12.8 ET with trap speeds of 113 mph. I guess it's just like the M5 and really just starts to scream when it gets into triple digits.
I'd of expected a 12.5 with 113 mph trap speeds.

Either way, it's still a fast car.
The upcoming DSG tranny model should have launch control too and faster shifts, so I'd expect it too be a bit quicker.

Man we are all nuts.
I remember growing up when a car that ran in the high 14's @ 90+ mph was considered fast and you'd be lucky to have a car that ran in the 15's
Then only exotics ran in the 13's at over 100 mph.

Now if you have a car that runs in the 14's and under 100 mph we consider it slow. LOL

Lastly, I know I personally get passionate about drag racing times myself. I've been a car nut since I was 14 and started racing my cars the day after I got my driver's license.
But in the grand scheme of things, a couple tenths here or a mph or two there is NOTHING. It's a blink of an eye.
I apologize if I get caught up over drag racing times, it's just been in my blood for nearly 20 years.
I've beat cars with more power than me and have been beaten by cars with less.
20 hp here and there in our cars don't mean a whole lot really.
We all have fast cars whether it's a stock 335i or it has a PROcede, TT, JB2, Xede, or whatever.
Each car is a little different and each car will react to the different tunes a bit differently and perform a bit differently too.

As it seems on a completely STOCK car in every other respect, on 91 and especially 93 Octane, it doesn't matter which tune we have (PROcede v1.47, JB2, TT, Xede), our cars seems to run in the high 12's at 107-109 mph.

As for v2.01 who knows yet, it's only gotten a few runs and not under the best of conditions yet. But even if it runs .2 seconds and 2 mph faster than v1.47 on a completely stock car, it doesn't appear to be enough to hang with the new M3 once rolling for sure. But regardless, it's a FAST car and we need to enjoy that and keep that into perspective.

Sorry so long, take it easy.

A stock 335i running a 12 ?? for real? thought they only managed mid to low 13? at 103-106ish

[bmwzimmer]

Ecu tuning only on a stock car can run 12's

[Driver72]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

A stock 335i running a 12 ?? for real? thought they only managed mid to low 13? at 103-106ish

Yes, as BMWZimmer pointed out, I stated on a 335i with JUST a tune of any kind can get you into the 12's.

[Driver72]

Originally Posted by catdog

no hard feelings.
We just need to see v2 vs. jb2 on a drag strip

It's all good.
Too many variables on the drag strip however to compare.
It's the rolling runs that have a lot less variables and showcase a car's power most.
I think the JB2 and PROcede v1.47 make nearly identical mid-high rpm hp.
The PROcede has more torque down low, and two manual equipped cars with each tune doing rolling runs in say 3rd gear at 1500 rpm starts would showcase the PROcede's extra low end torque due to it's extra boost and pull on the JB2 at the low rpms without much issue I'm sure.
But since the PROcede's boost tapers off at high rpms and pulls timing a bit, the JB2 seems to make very similiar HP numbers above 4000 rpms which is why the cars pretty much run side by side when doing rolling runs starting at 4000 rpms or so.

v2 PROcede clearly and easily pulls on v1.47 equipped cars in the couple we've seen so far (2-3 car lengths) from like 30-120 mph.

What needs to happen is a couple PROcede cars (v2.0 and v1.47) along with a couple JB cars to meet up for rolling runs.
But these cars all pretty much need to be STOCK with the exception of the tunes (and maybe wheels/tires which don't due much on rolling runs unless they are significantly lighter than stock...like those 17 lbs Kosei's).

[Driver72]

Originally Posted by Crazy Bimmer

The article was written in the future. December 2007?

I know.
I don't know why magazine companies do that.
We'll get the December issue in the mail in the next couple days and it's not even November yet???
Why not send out the December issue near the end of November, and the November issue near the end of October??