DMTL pump location on 2006 E92?

kOncept · 01-12-2015, 12:58 AM

So my car threw code 2A13 something to do with DMTL Pump.
I ordered a pump today and went to replace it but there isn't one on the car?

I've searched every corner of the internet some say it's behind the left some say the right, I removed both wheels/wheel well linings to check but I couldn't find it.

Does anyone know where it is on the earlier models?

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naynay · 01-12-2015, 01:06 AM

http://www.pelicanparts.com/BMW/tech..._Replacing.htm

kOncept · 01-12-2015, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by naynay

http://www.pelicanparts.com/BMW/tech..._Replacing.htm

Yeah I've seen that too I've removed covers on both sides but nothing is there...

All the images I see of it they have 3 connections into a large carbon canister and DMTL pump... the 3 connections on my car run into a little cylinder with nothing else attached

naynay · 01-12-2015, 01:12 AM

hmmm. not too sure man. dont even know what it does lol. keep us posted

kOncept · 01-12-2015, 01:38 AM

Just called BMW parts and provided my vin, he says they only have the carbon canister listed no DMTL pump for my car. So I wonder what the 2A13 code means...

harms · 01-12-2015, 02:10 AM

I just got the same this arvo!

Fehler: Pump motor control DMTL / Injector Cylinder 6 / activation of the DM-TL pump motor Code: 2A13
Fehler: DMTL Diagnostic Module Tank leakage diagnosis, system failure / DM-TL module Code: 2A17

1 day after the pump gas flash. You have this don't you? I wonder if its linked?

I cleared mine, i'm just gonna see if it comes back.

kOncept · 01-12-2015, 05:11 AM

That's interesting, 2A13 is the same code I'm getting after flash

harms · 01-12-2015, 05:21 AM

I had a whole bunch of other codes as well as the 2 I posted above. I have never seen so many!!!

The car had no faults the morning after the flash, but that afternoon starting the car to come home from work I had a CEL and all these codes!

Transmission Control:
Transmission / Getriebe GS 19
Fehler: sorry, unknown fault
Code: 511B
Fehler: Brake signal transmitter CAN
Code: 51AE
Fehler:

elay requirement ACC / K-Can Bus off
Code: CF33
Instrument cluster:
Instrument cluster / Kombiinstrument
Fehler: CAN signal fault transmission / CAN ID failure
Code: A3AA
Fehler: CAN signal fault engine
Code: A3AD
Fehler: CAN signal fault engine idle / CAN ID failure
Code: A3AE
Heating / AC:
Air conditioning / Klimaanlage
Fehler: CAN message / unknown failure K-CAN / CAN message data engine / K-CAN failure
Code: E717
Fehler: CAN message / Torque 3 CAN message / K-CAN failure / Terminal Status K-CAN
Code: E71A
Fehler: CAN message / Outside temperature K-CAN / CAN message HEAT FLOW engine / K-CAN failure
Code: E71B
Fehler: CAN message / K-Can failure / CAN message consumer power management
Code: E720
Immobilizer System:
CAS
Fehler: Signal detection error rate
Code: A0B5
Fehler: Signal detection error rate
Code: A118
Audio/Navi/Communication:
Phone / Telefon
Fehler: Error in the Bluetooth BT interface
Code: A379
Fuel pump / Kraftstoffpumpe
Fehler: unkown failure
Code: CED4
Body:
Fussraummodul /FRM
Fehler: :unknown failure
Code: E59A
Fehler: :unkown failure
Code: E59C
Fehler: :steering angle timeout
Code: E594
Fehler: :unkown failure
Code: E596
Fehler: A clamp 15 is missing
Code: 9CAB

Socket · 01-12-2015, 05:29 AM

Jeez Harmsy that's quite a list you got there
How is the car running? sounds like it was running perfect yesterday

kOncept · 01-12-2015, 05:29 AM

Wow! I suggest clearing the codes and seeing if they come back.
It does say after the flash you'll get a bunch of errors which may go away after driving.

harms · 01-12-2015, 05:47 AM

Yeh massive list. I don't think any are too serious but let's see if they come back.

Car is running well, but the boost of the flash was too much for the fuel i had so have had to switch to jb4 boost instead, but it still goes hard.

harms · 01-15-2015, 02:18 AM

Hey Koncept,

I can't PM you because your inbox is full.

You still getting your DMTL pump error?

I might have worked out the issue. See this thread over at n54tech for the deets

Basically, we dont have a DMTL pump as we have Euro spec cars which don't have this emissions device. Because we're using a modified US pec Bin, the car thinks we have this pump. Instead of using BMS's US Bins on their own we should be changing our original Bins and leaving things like the data that tells the car it doesnt have a DMTL pump as is.

Although strangely my DMTL error has gone away as of day 4. ?? So maybe i'll just leave it till it comes back but i'm pretty sure ive worked out how to update my own Bin.

Brule · 01-15-2015, 05:30 AM

When you flash your car with a US version this is what happens.
You need to go into tunerpro and turn it off.
I couldn't figure it out so i paid 200 us for a pro tune and never looked back.

01-12-2015, 12:58 AM	#1
kOncept First Lieutenant 37 Rep 303 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: AUS iTrader: (0)	DMTL pump location on 2006 E92? So my car threw code 2A13 something to do with DMTL Pump. I ordered a pump today and went to replace it but there isn't one on the car? I've searched every corner of the internet some say it's behind the left some say the right, I removed both wheels/wheel well linings to check but I couldn't find it. Does anyone know where it is on the earlier models?
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01-12-2015, 01:12 AM	#4
naynay Banned 185 Rep 1,426 Posts Drives: 2006 E92 335i FBO Join Date: May 2013 Location: Melbourne Australia iTrader: (0)	hmmm. not too sure man. dont even know what it does lol. keep us posted
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01-12-2015, 01:38 AM	#5
kOncept First Lieutenant 37 Rep 303 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: AUS iTrader: (0)	Just called BMW parts and provided my vin, he says they only have the carbon canister listed no DMTL pump for my car. So I wonder what the 2A13 code means...
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01-12-2015, 02:10 AM	#6
harms Captain 79 Rep 605 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	I just got the same this arvo! Fehler: Pump motor control DMTL / Injector Cylinder 6 / activation of the DM-TL pump motor Code: 2A13 Fehler: DMTL Diagnostic Module Tank leakage diagnosis, system failure / DM-TL module Code: 2A17 1 day after the pump gas flash. You have this don't you? I wonder if its linked? I cleared mine, i'm just gonna see if it comes back.
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01-12-2015, 05:11 AM	#7
kOncept First Lieutenant 37 Rep 303 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: AUS iTrader: (0)	That's interesting, 2A13 is the same code I'm getting after flash
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01-12-2015, 05:21 AM	#8
harms Captain 79 Rep 605 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	I had a whole bunch of other codes as well as the 2 I posted above. I have never seen so many!!! The car had no faults the morning after the flash, but that afternoon starting the car to come home from work I had a CEL and all these codes! Transmission Control: Transmission / Getriebe GS 19 Fehler: sorry, unknown fault Code: 511B Fehler: Brake signal transmitter CAN Code: 51AE Fehler: elay requirement ACC / K-Can Bus off Code: CF33 Instrument cluster: Instrument cluster / Kombiinstrument Fehler: CAN signal fault transmission / CAN ID failure Code: A3AA Fehler: CAN signal fault engine Code: A3AD Fehler: CAN signal fault engine idle / CAN ID failure Code: A3AE Heating / AC: Air conditioning / Klimaanlage Fehler: CAN message / unknown failure K-CAN / CAN message data engine / K-CAN failure Code: E717 Fehler: CAN message / Torque 3 CAN message / K-CAN failure / Terminal Status K-CAN Code: E71A Fehler: CAN message / Outside temperature K-CAN / CAN message HEAT FLOW engine / K-CAN failure Code: E71B Fehler: CAN message / K-Can failure / CAN message consumer power management Code: E720 Immobilizer System: CAS Fehler: Signal detection error rate Code: A0B5 Fehler: Signal detection error rate Code: A118 Audio/Navi/Communication: Phone / Telefon Fehler: Error in the Bluetooth BT interface Code: A379 Fuel pump / Kraftstoffpumpe Fehler: unkown failure Code: CED4 Body: Fussraummodul /FRM Fehler: :unknown failure Code: E59A Fehler: :unkown failure Code: E59C Fehler: :steering angle timeout Code: E594 Fehler: :unkown failure Code: E596 Fehler: A clamp 15 is missing Code: 9CAB
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01-12-2015, 05:29 AM	#9
Socket Lieutenant General 4775 Rep 11,971 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Australia iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 BMW E92 [0.00]	Jeez Harmsy that's quite a list you got there How is the car running? sounds like it was running perfect yesterday
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01-12-2015, 05:47 AM	#11
harms Captain 79 Rep 605 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	Yeh massive list. I don't think any are too serious but let's see if they come back. Car is running well, but the boost of the flash was too much for the fuel i had so have had to switch to jb4 boost instead, but it still goes hard.
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01-15-2015, 02:18 AM	#12
harms Captain 79 Rep 605 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	Hey Koncept, I can't PM you because your inbox is full. You still getting your DMTL pump error? I might have worked out the issue. See this thread over at n54tech for the deets Basically, we dont have a DMTL pump as we have Euro spec cars which don't have this emissions device. Because we're using a modified US pec Bin, the car thinks we have this pump. Instead of using BMS's US Bins on their own we should be changing our original Bins and leaving things like the data that tells the car it doesnt have a DMTL pump as is. Although strangely my DMTL error has gone away as of day 4. ?? So maybe i'll just leave it till it comes back but i'm pretty sure ive worked out how to update my own Bin.
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01-15-2015, 05:30 AM	#13
Brule Brigadier General 849 Rep 3,190 Posts Drives: 2007 335i e92 6spd man Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Darwin iTrader: (0)	When you flash your car with a US version this is what happens. You need to go into tunerpro and turn it off. I couldn't figure it out so i paid 200 us for a pro tune and never looked back.
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