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      11-15-2007, 02:47 PM   #23
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Or for less money and equal power check out the JB2.
harder install, and you still have to break into the DME to install.
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harder install, and you still have to break into the DME to install.
How is it harder than the PROcede to install?
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How is it harder than the PROcede to install?
sorry i was talking about the jb2 and the SSTT
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      11-24-2007, 01:59 AM   #26
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hi, I am soon to be 335xi coupe owner. I am planning to get the procede, but have some questions. how long does it take to install the procede? how difficult is it? how often do you need to install the procede? even when getting oil change? how often are BMW maintence schedules?
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      11-24-2007, 04:19 AM   #27
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hi, I am soon to be 335xi coupe owner. I am planning to get the procede, but have some questions. how long does it take to install the procede? how difficult is it? how often do you need to install the procede? even when getting oil change? how often are BMW maintence schedules?
That's a lot of questions...

How tehnically oriented are you? The PROcede, JB2, or Helix, or AA Xede, install invovles accessing the car's engine control unit. You extract some wires from the wiring harness plugs and intercept them with wires from the piggyback ECU's harness. Cover them with electrical tape. Tap into power in the ECU enclosure and you're done (more or less). Is it easy? I don't think I would classify it as "easy" but it's not difficult by any means. Check out the installation video for the PROcede V1.xx here and see what you think. There is also a written install instruction here.

My PROcede V1.47 install took a couple of hours. I had printed instructions and I followed it to the letter, checking off each item as I completed it. No problems, one limp mode due to crappy gasoline. Just installed PROcede V2 and its fantastic. Took about 1.5 hours, taking my time and double checking everything. Really no big deal at all.

Do your own oil post break-in oil change at a couple thousand miles (here we go with another thread - just search oil changes). You should do at least two oil changes before the 15,000mile oil change. Helps you get familar with your car and understand it better.

Remove the piggyback ECU for any dealer service. My opinion, not necessarily fact, but a lot of people here agree. Why take any chances, plus it only takes about 30-45 minutes to go back to stock. Others will say you don't need to for oil changes, but I wouldn't take any chances.

There are lots of ECU tuning options out there now and more just about to be introduced. Read everything you can and be wary of biased reviews. Try to talk to people who actually OWN the the piggybacks.

Good luck with whatever you choose.
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This is nothing but opinion, take it for what it is worth, not facts. As I understand it the mentioned map is not available to the public...

He means hiding it from the dealer/service department and lying about codes, problems etc


I agree with this part.
You drive 2 Porsche's, by far not the quickest ones, have no 335i and no PROcede and call me a liar ? Talk about things you know, not guess.

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That's a lot of questions...

How tehnically oriented are you? The PROcede, JB2, or Helix, or AA Xede, install invovles accessing the car's engine control unit. You extract some wires from the wiring harness plugs and intercept them with wires from the piggyback ECU's harness. Cover them with electrical tape. Tap into power in the ECU enclosure and you're done (more or less). Is it easy? I don't think I would classify it as "easy" but it's not difficult by any means. Check out the installation video for the PROcede V1.xx here and see what you think. There is also a written install instruction here.

My PROcede V1.47 install took a couple of hours. I had printed instructions and I followed it to the letter, checking off each item as I completed it. No problems, one limp mode due to crappy gasoline. Just installed PROcede V2 and its fantastic. Took about 1.5 hours, taking my time and double checking everything. Really no big deal at all.

Do your own oil post break-in oil change at a couple thousand miles (here we go with another thread - just search oil changes). You should do at least two oil changes before the 15,000mile oil change. Helps you get familar with your car and understand it better.

Remove the piggyback ECU for any dealer service. My opinion, not necessarily fact, but a lot of people here agree. Why take any chances, plus it only takes about 30-45 minutes to go back to stock. Others will say you don't need to for oil changes, but I wouldn't take any chances.

There are lots of ECU tuning options out there now and more just about to be introduced. Read everything you can and be wary of biased reviews. Try to talk to people who actually OWN the the piggybacks.

Good luck with whatever you choose.
lol, i have no idea how to do a oil change. do you need some equipment?
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      11-24-2007, 01:43 PM   #31
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i want to make my car faster, but every day i keep hearing people warranty is being voided by bmw cuz of vishnu and some people engines got damaged by vishnu, who has vishnu on this forum what have you experienced with it? and is it safe to get?
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i've been in this site for about 3 days really, but i joined like 11 months ago ... m3killers engine is on the verge of being blown, and i met this guy yesterday his wholehood was burned, he told me that has engine damage and all his cylinders are messed up, due to a chip he added, but he didnt name the chip, he didnt even know anything about it, but he also said he had about 400hp with just the chip, so im guessing vishnu, wat u guys think?
I think that if you bothered to read any of the threads you'd know that there has been only one reported case of a denied warranty claim due to the presence of a piggyback. Further, the poster involved needed a new fuel pump - his engine wasn't on the verge of "being blown". So you are not building up much credibilty momentum when you launch into your claim that there is another 335 owner who torched his engine because of a 400 hp "chip" - potentially Vishnu's. Even so, since this is a serious claim, can you please help by putting on your reporter's cap, find out more info., and come back here with some facts.
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harder install, and you still have to break into the DME to install.
Just to put in my completely biased $.02, the JB2, procede, xede, helix, etc installs are actually pretty easy. "Breaking" in to the ECU is sort of like breaking in to a fuse box, you just unclip the lid and snap it back on when you're done.

The TT is an easier install for sure, but you're talking about a 5 min job vs. a 30 min job. In the big picture we waste more than that 25 minutes every day on this forum.
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Just to put in my completely biased $.02, the JB2, procede, xede, helix, etc installs are actually pretty easy. "Breaking" in to the ECU is sort of like breaking in to a fuse box, you just unclip the lid and snap it back on when you're done.

The TT is an easier install for sure, but you're talking about a 5 min job vs. a 30 min job. In the big picture we waste more than that 25 minutes every day on this forum.
The TT is a 5 min job once you've done it a few times. It's more of an art than a science since you have to do it by feel and in a tight space. So it helps to have small arms, good dexterity and good tactile sense. That's why I get my sister-in-law to install/uninstall mine. Apart from that, it's truly plug and play. I haven't tried the procede et al install, but from what I can see it's not the cracking open the box that intimidates me, it's the "this pin that pin" part of it that would make me sweat- al. I am sure you'd be fine if you carefully follow the instructions.
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