ps2's and 21 degrees is a bad combo

FotiosF90M5 · 12-02-2007, 11:47 AM

We all already know this but holyshit it was so cold out that I honestly couldnt even accelerate.Ive never experienced it this bad. Arctic air front caught us by surprise.Well, yukon it is for the next few days until I get my new snowtires on my stockies. Those of you who dont know not to drive on summer tires in freezing temps DONT do it, you'll probably crash your bimmer.

HRC · 12-02-2007, 01:40 PM

LOL. glad your ok! Summer tires and freezing temps are trouble.

Danny

FotiosF90M5 · 12-02-2007, 01:44 PM

I think the ps2's are extra bad, my god.

HRC · 12-02-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fotios330i

I think the ps2's are extra bad, my god.

I agree, say compared to F1 GS D3 summers, the PS2's are more of a *true* summer tire.

Danny

Fraggy · 12-02-2007, 02:54 PM

Im just glad I live in a reasonable place to not have to deal with that crap

Park2670 · 12-02-2007, 07:34 PM

Thats why I took mine off a few weeks ago. I was sliding all over the place! Snows are much better...

FotiosF90M5 · 12-02-2007, 07:36 PM

yeah, I cant wait to get my brand new snow tires mounted. I was trying to keep the vs7's on for as long as possible but its time to stop the denial and swap them out.

sflgator · 12-02-2007, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fotios330i

I think the ps2's are extra bad, my god.

fotios, you're in MA...what part of "high performance SUMMER tires" did you not understand?

LOL.

As you know, I know ALL about driving in MA.

You should know you need either high performance ALL SEASON tires or Winter snow tires on your car, especially if it's not an Xi. Geez...what did you expect from the PS2s in below-freezing temps with snow, sleet, freezing rain, and icy road conditions?

FotiosF90M5 · 12-02-2007, 07:45 PM

I know all about it. I have brand new snow tires at home ready to mount on my stockies but denial is a strong thing.I couldnt help it.

FotiosF90M5 · 12-02-2007, 07:47 PM

it also doesnt help when the temps are 45-50 one day and 24 the next. btw el nino is spanish for the nino.

zzinco79 · 12-02-2007, 08:13 PM

we got snow like a shit here and I actually experienced same thing as OP today.

I run Toyo T1R as a summer set up. well, I was too stupid to driving with it in the snow.

I couldn't even make a mile with it. car slipped like crazy.

I barely came back to my place and changed to my stock set up, which is conti. pro contact RFT. much better in snow.

ianbiz · 12-02-2007, 08:29 PM

lol. I like the OP for loving his car too much

FotiosF90M5 · 12-02-2007, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ianbiz

lol. I like the OP for loving his car too much

yeah, I drive my wife nuts because I talk about it so much.

equ · 12-02-2007, 08:32 PM

I have PS2's on my cayman and find that they are driveable on 30F dry days, BUT they need 20 minutes of warm-up... Very easy to get sideways easily, as long as it's dry quite progressive. If it's damp and below 40F, I just don't take them out.

equ · 12-02-2007, 08:33 PM

I had potenza re040's before on a zhp and PS1's on another zhp, neither of those tires lost traction with temperature the way the PS2 does. It just drops off a cliff, especially when the tire is cold.

FotiosF90M5 · 12-02-2007, 08:35 PM

Same with me but when the temps got down to 20 degrees it was dangerous.Even after they heated up it was extremely easy to get sideways.fun too

FotiosF90M5 · 12-02-2007, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by equ

I had potenza re040's before on a zhp and PS1's on another zhp, neither of those tires lost traction with temperature the way the PS2 does. It just drops off a cliff, especially when the tire is cold.

definately.

judec · 12-02-2007, 08:53 PM

not the fault of PS2's. Disregarding all-seasons which are not good enough all year long using high perf summer tires in winter and commenting about e.g. GSD3 is not that bad when freezing is like arguing who's dog's shit stinks more - yours or your neighbours? But what's the big deal, it's crap anyway...?

Summer tires for summer, winter tires in winter.

sflgator · 12-02-2007, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by fotios330i

it also doesnt help when the temps are 45-50 one day and 24 the next. btw el nino is spanish for the nino.

That's MA for 'ya ...if you don't like the weather today, just wait until tomorrow.

FotiosF90M5 · 12-02-2007, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sflgator

That's MA for 'ya ...if you don't like the weather today, just wait until tomorrow.

It will be sleeping in the garage tomorrow.

FotiosF90M5 · 12-02-2007, 09:11 PM

Im gonna miss the vs7's and the ps2's

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FotiosF90M5 ///M Specialist South Shore BMW 800 Rep 7,109 Posts Drives: 2021 M5 Comp BHG/Silverstone Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Shore, MA iTrader: (62)	yeah, I cant wait to get my brand new snow tires mounted. I was trying to keep the vs7's on for as long as possible but its time to stop the denial and swap them out. __________________ 2021 M5 COMPETITION LCI Brands Hatch Gray on SIlverstone, carbon roof, comp wheels, Mperf splitter, carbon pro spoiler, carbon diffuser , carbon paddles, executive pkg. Dinan HAS, RaceChip, dinan spacers, FC stud kit, etc
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FotiosF90M5 ///M Specialist South Shore BMW 800 Rep 7,109 Posts Drives: 2021 M5 Comp BHG/Silverstone Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Shore, MA iTrader: (62)	I know all about it. I have brand new snow tires at home ready to mount on my stockies but denial is a strong thing.I couldnt help it. __________________ 2021 M5 COMPETITION LCI Brands Hatch Gray on SIlverstone, carbon roof, comp wheels, Mperf splitter, carbon pro spoiler, carbon diffuser , carbon paddles, executive pkg. Dinan HAS, RaceChip, dinan spacers, FC stud kit, etc
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FotiosF90M5 ///M Specialist South Shore BMW 800 Rep 7,109 Posts Drives: 2021 M5 Comp BHG/Silverstone Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Shore, MA iTrader: (62)	it also doesnt help when the temps are 45-50 one day and 24 the next. btw el nino is spanish for the nino. __________________ 2021 M5 COMPETITION LCI Brands Hatch Gray on SIlverstone, carbon roof, comp wheels, Mperf splitter, carbon pro spoiler, carbon diffuser , carbon paddles, executive pkg. Dinan HAS, RaceChip, dinan spacers, FC stud kit, etc
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zzinco79 Major 131 Rep 1,411 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW 325i Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Rochester, NY iTrader: (8)	we got snow like a shit here and I actually experienced same thing as OP today. I run Toyo T1R as a summer set up. well, I was too stupid to driving with it in the snow. I couldn't even make a mile with it. car slipped like crazy. I barely came back to my place and changed to my stock set up, which is conti. pro contact RFT. much better in snow. __________________ 2006 BSM 325i / ZPP / ZSP / Adaptive Xenon / BLK leather interior / Steptronic Eisenmann racing / K&N Ram charger / M5 rep. wheels / D1S 6000k / Brex white ring / OEM style rear trunk spoiler / M steering / OEM strut bar / Blk line tail light Future Mod Hamann lip spolier / Mtech rear bumper
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equ First Lieutenant 22 Rep 331 Posts Drives: Croc & toaster Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dogville iTrader: (10)	I have PS2's on my cayman and find that they are driveable on 30F dry days, BUT they need 20 minutes of warm-up... Very easy to get sideways easily, as long as it's dry quite progressive. If it's damp and below 40F, I just don't take them out.
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equ First Lieutenant 22 Rep 331 Posts Drives: Croc & toaster Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dogville iTrader: (10)	I had potenza re040's before on a zhp and PS1's on another zhp, neither of those tires lost traction with temperature the way the PS2 does. It just drops off a cliff, especially when the tire is cold.
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FotiosF90M5 ///M Specialist South Shore BMW 800 Rep 7,109 Posts Drives: 2021 M5 Comp BHG/Silverstone Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Shore, MA iTrader: (62)	Same with me but when the temps got down to 20 degrees it was dangerous.Even after they heated up it was extremely easy to get sideways.fun too __________________ 2021 M5 COMPETITION LCI Brands Hatch Gray on SIlverstone, carbon roof, comp wheels, Mperf splitter, carbon pro spoiler, carbon diffuser , carbon paddles, executive pkg. Dinan HAS, RaceChip, dinan spacers, FC stud kit, etc
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judec born to be turbocharged 24 Rep 1,347 Posts Drives: Not a bimmer yet Join Date: May 2007 Location: Slovakia iTrader: (0)	not the fault of PS2's. Disregarding all-seasons which are not good enough all year long using high perf summer tires in winter and commenting about e.g. GSD3 is not that bad when freezing is like arguing who's dog's shit stinks more - yours or your neighbours? But what's the big deal, it's crap anyway...? Summer tires for summer, winter tires in winter. __________________ Disclaimer: All this message was written with recycled electrons.
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