[PHXE90]

Originally Posted by Tom Droze

I'll see your bump and raise you a bump!

BUMP

Originally Posted by 4g63turbo

does this work with eurobox?

Yes, I believe there are a few members running this with the EuroBox. Maybe someone will chime in.

[Tom Droze]

Originally Posted by mmmnot

It's a nice build but I for one can not tell a difference.

Not a complete waste of money, it is a nice build and looks better than the OEM section - but I feel nor hear no difference, honestly.

I did a before and after dyno run with my intake hose, and while the peak horsepower didn't change, there was a four horsepower increase in the midrange. Obviously four horsepower isn't detectable by most butt dynos, but it was there nonetheless. From a bang for the buck standpoint, I think it's an effective modification.

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by Tom Droze

I did a before and after dyno run with my intake hose, and while the peak horsepower didn't change, there was a four horsepower increase in the midrange. Obviously four horsepower isn't detectable by most butt dynos, but it was there nonetheless. From a bang for the buck standpoint, I think it's an effective modification.

Single run vs single run, or 3hp on average of a set number of runs before and after?

[mmmnot]

Originally Posted by Tom Droze

I did a before and after dyno run with my intake hose, and while the peak horsepower didn't change, there was a four horsepower increase in the midrange. Obviously four horsepower isn't detectable by most butt dynos, but it was there nonetheless. From a bang for the buck standpoint, I think it's an effective modification.

If done on an average of 3 dyno runs, then that is fairly impression for the design and price. I will give credit there.

[Tom Droze]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Single run vs single run, or 3hp on average of a set number of runs before and after?

The average (mean) of three runs before compared to the average of three runs after. The ambient temperature was about 12 ℉ warmer for the after runs and the humidity was less. The other variable, which could have effected the reading was any variance (if any) in the tie down pressure on the dyno. After I installed the intake hose, I drove around for 50 plus miles to allow the ECU to adjust. In short, I did the best I could.

[mmmnot]

Originally Posted by Tom Droze

The average (mean) of three runs before compared to the average of three runs after. The ambient temperature was about 12 ℉ warmer for the after runs and the humidity was less. The other variable, which could have effected the reading was any variance (if any) in the tie down pressure on the dyno. After I installed the intake hose, I drove around for 50 plus miles to allow the ECU to adjust. In short, I did the best I could.

Color me impressed then.

[PHXE90]

Originally Posted by Tom Droze

The average (mean) of three runs before compared to the average of three runs after. The ambient temperature was about 12 ℉ warmer for the after runs and the humidity was less. The other variable, which could have effected the reading was any variance (if any) in the tie down pressure on the dyno. After I installed the intake hose, I drove around for 50 plus miles to allow the ECU to adjust. In short, I did the best I could.

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by Tom Droze

The average (mean) of three runs before compared to the average of three runs after. The ambient temperature was about 12 ℉ warmer for the after runs and the humidity was less. The other variable, which could have effected the reading was any variance (if any) in the tie down pressure on the dyno. After I installed the intake hose, I drove around for 50 plus miles to allow the ECU to adjust. In short, I did the best I could.

Doing it about as well as you can.

[Tom Droze]

Here is a cut and paste from my original August 4th post:

Being a data junkie at heart, I decided to export the raw horsepower and torque data into an Excel spreadsheet to see what the data looked liked lined up by RPM. I calculated and compared the average (mean) horsepower and torque for the four runs before the intake tube install and for the four runs after the intake tube install in 100 RPM increments starting at 3,000 RPM and ending at 6,500 RPM.

For the 3,000 RPM to 3,700 RPM range the average (mean) horsepower increase was 1.26 and the average (mean) torque increase was 1.94.

For the 3,800 RPM to 5,300 RPM range the average (mean) horsepower increase was 3.00 and the average (mean) torque increase was 3.42. It is interesting to note that 4,800 RPM produced the biggest increase in horsepower and torque at 4.16 and 4.54 respectively.

For the 5,400 RPM to 6,500 RPM range the average (mean) horsepower increase was 2.30 and the average (mean) torque increase was 2.02.

Looking at the data this way I feel more comfortable in saying that the intake tube did make a measurable difference in horsepower and torque throughout the entire RPM range with the biggest increase being in the midrange.

Oh, it's friggin Amstel Light time now!

[mmmnot]

Originally Posted by Tom Droze

Here is a cut and paste from my original August 4th post:

Being a data junkie at heart, I decided to export the raw horsepower and torque data into an Excel spreadsheet to see what the data looked liked lined up by RPM. I calculated and compared the average (mean) horsepower and torque for the four runs before the intake tube install and for the four runs after the intake tube install in 100 RPM increments starting at 3,000 RPM and ending at 6,500 RPM.

For the 3,000 RPM to 3,700 RPM range the average (mean) horsepower increase was 1.26 and the average (mean) torque increase was 1.94.

For the 3,800 RPM to 5,300 RPM range the average (mean) horsepower increase was 3.00 and the average (mean) torque increase was 3.42. It is interesting to note that 4,800 RPM produced the biggest increase in horsepower and torque at 4.16 and 4.54 respectively.

For the 5,400 RPM to 6,500 RPM range the average (mean) horsepower increase was 2.30 and the average (mean) torque increase was 2.02.

Looking at the data this way I feel more comfortable in saying that the intake tube did make a measurable difference in horsepower and torque throughout the entire RPM range with the biggest increase being in the midrange.

Oh, it's friggin Amstel Light time now!

I missed this.

Thank you for highlighting it - great data.

[PHXE90]

Originally Posted by Tom Droze

Oh, it's friggin Amstel Light time now!

This is the best!

[4g63turbo]

can somebody chime in if this will work with euro airbox

[Dylanize]

Originally Posted by mmmnot

I missed this.

Thank you for highlighting it - great data.

Wow, 4 hp/tq from a friggin tube...

[EndOfAnEra]

I know this isn't the right place to put this but I'm about to put mine up for sale...I'm going back to stock

[PHXE90]

Originally Posted by 4g63turbo

can somebody chime in if this will work with euro airbox

I believe pinoye90 has the EuroBox, send him a PM to verify.

[Agentphish]

Originally Posted by EndOfAnEra

I know this isn't the right place to put this but I'm about to put mine up for sale...I'm going back to stock

Can I ask why? Considering buying one...

[EndOfAnEra]

Originally Posted by Agentphish

Can I ask why? Considering buying one...

Well I'm selling a lot of things off of my car, not just this. If anyone is interested pm me