Seattle Seahawks...

M2ALEX · 02-01-2015, 10:14 PM

Best Superbowl Ever!

squidlyboy · 02-01-2015, 10:14 PM

lol... what was carroll thinking

finaloption · 02-01-2015, 10:15 PM

awww TrevorM3 is banned? was looking forward to reading his reaction..

///M Leistung · 02-01-2015, 10:25 PM

Carroll!! F'n moron!!!

z3papa · 02-01-2015, 10:38 PM

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

koches · 02-01-2015, 10:52 PM

Only watched the last 2 min. in the airport. What a joke, but fuck the pats

E39lolz · 02-01-2015, 10:54 PM

Pete Carroll turned Beast Mode into Least Mode.

///M Leistung · 02-01-2015, 11:04 PM

Saddest part is Russell Wilson taking the flak for Carroll and the Hawks Offensive coordinators, piss poor play calling!!

mul1gan · 02-01-2015, 11:09 PM

so happy hawks lost...
like someone said, live by the sword die by the sword.... that first half was crazy carrol is so aggressive.

finaloption · 02-01-2015, 11:14 PM

after that miracle catch by Kearse and everything.. must be devastating for Seahawks fans right now

bmw1racer · 02-02-2015, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by finaloption

awww TrevorM3 is banned? was looking forward to reading his reaction..

He got what he deserved.

BKap08 · 02-02-2015, 12:40 AM

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. 12th man STFU!!!!

OneRib · 02-04-2015, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bmw1racer

He got what he deserved.

What did he get banned for? They should have a sticky and locked thread just to list banned members and why they were banned. It better not be over some football nonsense. This is a BMW forum. Stupid if you get banned over sports.

sygazelle · 02-04-2015, 09:51 PM

First, I am not an expert in football. I am not an expert on strategy or play calling. That said, I've read all the reasons why the Seahawk's call was the worst in Superbowl history.

From my non-expert point of view, it was not the best call, but I don't think it was as horrible as it is being made out to be.

Key points:

- the Patriots were set up for a run defense.
- a pass play stops the clock if incomplete
- Lynch has had trouble advancing close to the end zone
- the guy who intercepted made an an unbelievable play to get the ball
- the Seahawks fumble percentage is higher than their interception percentage (1.5% to 1.2%) if I read the season stats correctly.

There is no guarantee that Lynch would have made it into the end zone. Also, there is a risk that he would fumble, just like there is a risk that the pass would be intercepted.

Certainly, a pass across the middle is more dangerous, but still their interception rate is darn low. Whoever made the call apparently thought the risk of the pass was acceptable given that the Patriots were set up for the run and also the concern for time management.

Sure, the outcome was bad. But, in the moment, was it really as horrible a call as the fans and press are making it out to be? Or was it just horrible after the fact because of the outcome?

I'm not a Seahawk fan or a Pete Carroll fan so I'm not trying to defend anything. I'm just wondering if the hate is totally justified. What am I missing?

bmw1racer · 02-04-2015, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OneRib

What did he get banned for?

From what I've seen, it's for being abusive.

Quote:

Stupid if you get banned over sports.

Well then, he's stupid.

1MOREMOD · 02-04-2015, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sygazelle

First, I am not an expert in football. I am not an expert on strategy or play calling. That said, I've read all the reasons why the Seahawk's call was the worst in Superbowl history.

From my non-expert point of view, it was not the best call, but I don't think it was as horrible as it is being made out to be.

Key points:

- the Patriots were set up for a run defense.
- a pass play stops the clock if incomplete
- Lynch has had trouble advancing close to the end zone
- the guy who intercepted made an an unbelievable play to get the ball
- the Seahawks fumble percentage is higher than their interception percentage (1.5% to 1.2%) if I read the season stats correctly.

There is no guarantee that Lynch would have made it into the end zone. Also, there is a risk that he would fumble, just like there is a risk that the pass would be intercepted.

Certainly, a pass across the middle is more dangerous, but still their interception rate is darn low. Whoever made the call apparently thought the risk of the pass was acceptable given that the Patriots were set up for the run and also the concern for time management.

Sure, the outcome was bad. But, in the moment, was it really as horrible a call as the fans and press are making it out to be? Or was it just horrible after the fact because of the outcome?

I'm not a Seahawk fan or a Pete Carroll fan so I'm not trying to defend anything. I'm just wondering if the hate is totally justified. What am I missing?

No you got it right for the most part. Lynch has low fumble rate and seems like no brained to let him take it in and safer. Would have prefered a differnt pass play if thats the call like corner slant so much lower risk. All game I kept tell them to protect the ball and avoid mistakes. I was scared something like this would ruin things.

OneRib · 02-05-2015, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sygazelle

First, I am not an expert in football. I am not an expert on strategy or play calling. That said, I've read all the reasons why the Seahawk's call was the worst in Superbowl history.

From my non-expert point of view, it was not the best call, but I don't think it was as horrible as it is being made out to be.

Key points:

- the Patriots were set up for a run defense.
- a pass play stops the clock if incomplete
- Lynch has had trouble advancing close to the end zone
- the guy who intercepted made an an unbelievable play to get the ball
- the Seahawks fumble percentage is higher than their interception percentage (1.5% to 1.2%) if I read the season stats correctly.

There is no guarantee that Lynch would have made it into the end zone. Also, there is a risk that he would fumble, just like there is a risk that the pass would be intercepted.

Certainly, a pass across the middle is more dangerous, but still their interception rate is darn low. Whoever made the call apparently thought the risk of the pass was acceptable given that the Patriots were set up for the run and also the concern for time management.

Sure, the outcome was bad. But, in the moment, was it really as horrible a call as the fans and press are making it out to be? Or was it just horrible after the fact because of the outcome?

I'm not a Seahawk fan or a Pete Carroll fan so I'm not trying to defend anything. I'm just wondering if the hate is totally justified. What am I missing?

You are correct. What most people are saying is a horrible call is because they have access to the result. If they play goes for a touchdown, I doubt you would hear anything about the call. Coaches get killed all the time for being to conservative. The Seahawks weren't.

All that said, the Seahawks were built for that exact scenario. Even if the Patriots were playing run, you just know they had little chance to stop them. In the end, that was a gut punch loss.

OneRib · 02-05-2015, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmw1racer

From what I've seen, it's for being abusive.

Well then, he's stupid.

Thanks for the update.

SeriousThree · 02-05-2015, 06:19 PM

Couldn't ask for a better game or a more fitting loser.

Dalecan · 02-05-2015, 09:55 PM

Go Hawks!

Flying Ace · 02-05-2015, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finaloption

after that miracle catch by Kearse and everything.. must be devastating for Seahawks fans right now

There are worst ways to lose...

Mr.SugarSkulls · 04-19-2015, 12:29 AM

Hand it to marshawn....

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sygazelle Brigadier General 13272 Rep 3,445 Posts Drives: 2014 328i M-Sport, 2019 X5 40i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (0)	Here it goes... First, I am not an expert in football. I am not an expert on strategy or play calling. That said, I've read all the reasons why the Seahawk's call was the worst in Superbowl history. From my non-expert point of view, it was not the best call, but I don't think it was as horrible as it is being made out to be. Key points: - the Patriots were set up for a run defense. - a pass play stops the clock if incomplete - Lynch has had trouble advancing close to the end zone - the guy who intercepted made an an unbelievable play to get the ball - the Seahawks fumble percentage is higher than their interception percentage (1.5% to 1.2%) if I read the season stats correctly. There is no guarantee that Lynch would have made it into the end zone. Also, there is a risk that he would fumble, just like there is a risk that the pass would be intercepted. Certainly, a pass across the middle is more dangerous, but still their interception rate is darn low. Whoever made the call apparently thought the risk of the pass was acceptable given that the Patriots were set up for the run and also the concern for time management. Sure, the outcome was bad. But, in the moment, was it really as horrible a call as the fans and press are making it out to be? Or was it just horrible after the fact because of the outcome? I'm not a Seahawk fan or a Pete Carroll fan so I'm not trying to defend anything. I'm just wondering if the hate is totally justified. What am I missing?
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