E90Post
 


Extreme Powerhouse
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Technical Forums > Mechanical Maintenance: Break-in / Oil & Fluids / Servicing / Warranty > battery died with no warning



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-02-2015, 03:34 PM   #1
nubmwowner
Registered
2
Rep
2
Posts

Drives: BMW 328xi
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: canada

iTrader: (0)

battery died with no warning

my car is a 2011 328xi

My vehicle is in the shop and I am getting a 600$ bill for checking the battery and getting a replacement installed. The car went in for a general service check 3 weeks ago and the battery was supposedly checked and supposedly passed inspection. There was no incident of leaving the lights on or running the radio while the engine was off. Our driving habits have not changed...typically the car is driven to the cottage (240 km mostly highway) and driven back (another 240 km) each weekend. During the week it generally sits idle. The battery died on the sunday after the friday drive to the cottage. The engine did turnover but would not start, no indicators of any kind were displayed. I have two questions:

1. there was never a battery warning indication, the car went from fine to would not start. Is this unusual when a battery dies? I assume there should have been some kind of warning...

2. Is it reasonable given our driving habits for the battery to pass the inspection and then die within 3 weeks? The dealer claims the battery can go from fine to dead in a few days.

I suppose a third question is are our driving habits bad for the battery... I should also mention the car was parked indoors the entire time both in the city and at the cottage.

Thanks for any feedback
Appreciate 0
      11-02-2015, 04:45 PM   #2
cays
Private First Class
143
Rep
155
Posts

Drives: 3 Germans
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

For various reasons AGM batteries can develop an instant internal short and one minute everything is normal and the next, you won't even get a click when you go to start up. It's common for them to fail suddenly like yours did.
Appreciate 0
      11-02-2015, 04:49 PM   #3
overcoil
Major General
3123
Rep
5,582
Posts

Drives: M235i 6spd
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Mid-Atlantic

iTrader: (0)

1) For mercedes-benz the tech-forum consensus was for maximum battery reliability change every four years.

2) short trip in urban areas with lots of accessories on and then days on end without use can sulfate a battery - mess up the plate.

3) just happened to my GF last month, battery was dying but the drive to the dealer charged the battery well enough to show O.K. on the battery tester. Though a second test a few minutes later showed a dying battery.
Appreciate 0
      11-02-2015, 05:27 PM   #4
nubmwowner
Registered
2
Rep
2
Posts

Drives: BMW 328xi
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: canada

iTrader: (0)

thanks for the feedback

Thanks for the feedback...not sure it is what i wanted to hear but then again there really is not a good answer to my situation!

Time to get out the cheque book...
Appreciate 0
      11-02-2015, 05:50 PM   #5
MightyMouseTech
Major General
MightyMouseTech's Avatar
4348
Rep
6,196
Posts

Drives: 13 135i 6MT LeMans Blue MSport
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Ottawa, Canada

iTrader: (0)

All batteries can fail in the snap of a finger, zero warning. Some do, some don't.

Have even seen a battery pass our test, park it outside, go to start it to bring into car wash, dead.
Appreciate 1
      11-03-2015, 12:20 AM   #6
atruelunatic
Lieutenant
100
Rep
475
Posts

Drives: n/a
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Seattle, WA

iTrader: (1)

Can confirm... battery tested fine at AutoZone, then didn't start the car adequately. It was also charged using their battery tester.

Bought a new battery and right before swapping batteries, got a low battery warning. New battery seems to be working well.
__________________
2011 e92 JzB 6MT
Akrapovic Evolution, ESS Tune, KW V3
Appreciate 0
      11-03-2015, 12:27 AM   #7
bmw1racer
bimmerphile, technogeek
bmw1racer's Avatar
United_States
1012
Rep
3,800
Posts

Drives: 2012 E82 6MT Sport
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
My 2012's battery died after driving it to work in the morning... No warning, either.

To make a long story short, the dealer tried to stick me with a $600+ bill, I filed a complaint with the local TV station, and they got the dealership to refund me all of my money.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      12-18-2015, 12:35 AM   #8
Schulz
New Member
7
Rep
21
Posts

Drives: 535i
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: FL

iTrader: (0)

Batteries can die out at any time. There is no warning in most cases and all you can do is to replace the battery after an interval of say 2 years so that you don't get stuck one day. It happened to me once when I was on a long distance trip and had to buy a new battery at a place that I got stuck in.
Appreciate 0
      12-18-2015, 09:26 AM   #9
bmw1racer
bimmerphile, technogeek
bmw1racer's Avatar
United_States
1012
Rep
3,800
Posts

Drives: 2012 E82 6MT Sport
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schulz View Post
There is no warning in most cases and all you can do is to replace the battery after an interval of say 2 years so that you don't get stuck one day.
Two years is an awfully short period between battery changes.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      12-18-2015, 09:55 AM   #10
aerostar
Major
758
Rep
1,247
Posts

Drives: 2018 F80
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

600 for a battery swap? :/
Appreciate 0
      12-18-2015, 11:01 AM   #11
XMetal
Colonel
XMetal's Avatar
United_States
1230
Rep
2,945
Posts

Drives: Anything
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 Z4M Coupe  [10.00]
2004 X5  [8.50]
2018 Audi S3  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by bmw1racer View Post
Two years is an awfully short period between battery changes.
Not really according to this => http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmws-twi...ies-88475.html

A lot of newer BMWs with start/stop features are doing the same to their batteries
Appreciate 0
      12-18-2015, 11:28 AM   #12
David70
Colonel
1755
Rep
2,835
Posts

Drives: 20 AM Vantage -13 Cadillac ATS
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Cincinnati, OH

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by XMetal View Post
Not really according to this => http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmws-twi...ies-88475.html

A lot of newer BMWs with start/stop features are doing the same to their batteries
This always make me laugh (from your link) -

Quote:
Even after bumping the batteries from 90-Ah AGMs to 105-Ah AGMs, the batteries still have to be replaced every 10,000 miles, or at every oil change.
I guess if you're saving the environment?

BMW is one of the few that can get away with something like this, try to pull that on an Accord owner.
__________________
2006 Z4M Coupe - ZHP knob, stubby antenna, clutch delay delete
Appreciate 0
      12-18-2015, 06:19 PM   #13
ShocknAwe
1Addict
ShocknAwe's Avatar
3592
Rep
8,137
Posts

Drives: E82, E70, 991.1
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Charleston

iTrader: (22)

Quote:
Originally Posted by David70 View Post
This always make me laugh (from your link) -



I guess if you're saving the environment?

BMW is one of the few that can get away with something like this, try to pull that on an Accord owner.
And while they're busy "saving the environment" from miniscule amounts of emissions from incompletely combusted fuel during VERY short term stops, what exactly are they doing with all those damn batteries!?
__________________
Build: 1er Project8
Hauler: M57 Truck
Daily: 991.1 GTS
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:05 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST