E90Post
 


 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > BMS OCC - works



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      08-05-2014, 06:24 PM   #1
SeanS54
Captain
SeanS54's Avatar
168
Rep
846
Posts

Drives: F82 M4 ZCP
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (20)

BMS OCC - works

After 4 track events I checked my Oil Catch Can and it did it's job. Got about a table spoon of oil. Prior to the track events the can was empty with a light residue.

If you're driving hard and boosting more than stock I highly recommend an OCC.

Appreciate 2
      08-05-2014, 06:30 PM   #2
e92_enthusiast_1
Lieutenant Colonel
e92_enthusiast_1's Avatar
United_States
105
Rep
1,698
Posts

Drives: '10 AW/CR e92 6mt 335i
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Tempe, AZ

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2010 BMW 335i  [10.00]
Nice, thanks for sharing. i was curious and this answers the question about effectiveness.
__________________
2010 E92 N54 335i 6MT Alpine White
2025 G87 S58 M2 6MT Grigio Telesto - Ordered
Appreciate 0
      08-05-2014, 06:34 PM   #3
SeanS54
Captain
SeanS54's Avatar
168
Rep
846
Posts

Drives: F82 M4 ZCP
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (20)

Quote:
Originally Posted by e92_enthusiast_1 View Post
Nice, thanks for sharing. i was curious and this answers the question about effectiveness.
no worries... I too questioned the effectiveness of the OCC but after this discovery I'm glad I have... driving around town and boosting now and then I didn't catch much oil.... but after some hard driving at the track it did it's job...
Appreciate 0
      08-05-2014, 06:39 PM   #4
Jeff@TopGearSolutions
Jeff@TopGearSolutions's Avatar
United_States
3455
Rep
79,211
Posts

Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com

iTrader: (37)

Oh it works. After 6,000 miles my car had about 1/4 of it full LOL.
Appreciate 1
      08-05-2015, 03:18 PM   #5
SeanS54
Captain
SeanS54's Avatar
168
Rep
846
Posts

Drives: F82 M4 ZCP
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (20)

update as of today... 3 track events and 3K miles later, the OCC is still doing it's job...

N54 335I with JB4 tune & FBO


[IMG]BMS OCC (2) by Sean T, on Flickr[/IMG]
Appreciate 0
      08-05-2015, 03:29 PM   #6
matthewo
First Lieutenant
58
Rep
319
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: SC

iTrader: (2)

I just use my intercooler and valves for this...
Appreciate 3
      08-05-2015, 04:11 PM   #7
335NJ
Colonel
United_States
534
Rep
2,872
Posts

Drives: 2008 335i 6MT E90
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: NJ/Philadelphia Suburbs

iTrader: (1)

You don't even know. My previous vehicle had a 5.7L Hemi, and that SOB filled catch cans scary fast.

Happy it's working well OP!
Appreciate 0
      08-05-2015, 05:54 PM   #8
335xMD
N54 Crew
335xMD's Avatar
16
Rep
88
Posts

Drives: 2008 335xi 6MT
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: In the hospital

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 BMW 335xi  [0.00]
out of curiosity, how many of you have the upgraded RB PCV and still have found significant amounts of oil in your OCC?
__________________
'08 335xi 6MT | JB4 D5 ISO + MHD/BB E85 Flash | Fuel-it! Stage 2 LPFP | BMS DCI | BMS CP w/ Turbosmart Kompact Dual Port | Cyba scoops | E60
Appreciate 1
      08-05-2015, 08:29 PM   #9
Sgop335
Colonel
Sgop335's Avatar
United_States
657
Rep
2,061
Posts

Drives: 07 335i e92, 08 535i
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: MD

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 335xMD View Post
out of curiosity, how many of you have the upgraded RB PCV and still have found significant amounts of oil in your OCC?
They have different purposes. Pcv valve - oil vapors going to the intake man. Occ collects the oil going to the inlet pipe. Rb pcv valve is better since it does not leak at boost that helps the crank case. guess its a lousy explanation
__________________
335i e92 TPC 19Ts
Appreciate 0
      08-05-2015, 11:05 PM   #10
335xMD
N54 Crew
335xMD's Avatar
16
Rep
88
Posts

Drives: 2008 335xi 6MT
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: In the hospital

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 BMW 335xi  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgop335 View Post
They have different purposes. Pcv valve - oil vapors going to the intake man. Occ collects the oil going to the inlet pipe. Rb pcv valve is better since it does not leak at boost that helps the crank case. guess its a lousy explanation
thanks for the reply

Just curious because apparently some have wound up with essentially no OCC accumulation after upgrading to RB PCV. I've installed the RB PCV but have still been considering a can
__________________
'08 335xi 6MT | JB4 D5 ISO + MHD/BB E85 Flash | Fuel-it! Stage 2 LPFP | BMS DCI | BMS CP w/ Turbosmart Kompact Dual Port | Cyba scoops | E60
Appreciate 0
      08-06-2015, 04:33 AM   #11
musc
Free T_e_r_r_Y :)
musc's Avatar
222
Rep
1,706
Posts

Drives: X3MC, Audi TTRS MK3, 335is DCT
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Charleston, SC

iTrader: (9)

Garage List
2023 BMW X3MC  [10.00]
2011 BMW 335is  [10.00]
I did RB PCV and BMS OCC at the same time. No oil in the catch ever, other than a light film, but nothing to dump out.
Appreciate 1
      08-06-2015, 09:39 AM   #12
EJ_3
Colonel
EJ_3's Avatar
United_States
372
Rep
2,838
Posts

Drives: e92 335i, e34 525i & e60 530i
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: N Las Vegas

iTrader: (13)

Garage List
2007 BMW 335i  [8.34]
2016 Ram 1500 Sport  [8.00]
1994 BMW 525i  [10.00]
2007 BMW 530i  [8.66]
Hmmm....I forgot I had this oil catch can, I should check it.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      08-06-2015, 09:58 AM   #13
924er
Colonel
349
Rep
2,049
Posts

Drives: e92 335i '10
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Socal

iTrader: (0)

I got rid of my oil catch can. I just get my valves cleaned. As for the oil blow by around the FMIC and chargepipe, it doesn't bother me. Glad to see its working though
__________________
'10 e92 N54

DCI intakes, ER chargepipe, TIAL BOV,
VRSF 5in FMIC, BMS Downpipes COBB e30
Appreciate 0
      08-06-2015, 09:59 AM   #14
MineralweissIS
Second Lieutenant
MineralweissIS's Avatar
47
Rep
201
Posts

Drives: 2012 Mineral White 335is
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Miami, FL

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2012 BMW 335is  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by 335xMD View Post
thanks for the reply

Just curious because apparently some have wound up with essentially no OCC accumulation after upgrading to RB PCV. I've installed the RB PCV but have still been considering a can
You and I are in the same boat. I installed the RB PCV in an effort to curb oil consumption on my N54. I was hoping for an improvement but there has been none in the 4 months or so I've had it installed. At the minimum, I hope it helps relieve crankcase pressure but I still have to add 1 qt between 1500~1700 miles. I am not really sure if the OCC will help but it can't hurt.

Thanks to SeanS54 for posting the data and pictures!
Appreciate 0
      08-06-2015, 10:06 AM   #15
Sgop335
Colonel
Sgop335's Avatar
United_States
657
Rep
2,061
Posts

Drives: 07 335i e92, 08 535i
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: MD

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlpineweissIS View Post
You and I are in the same boat. I installed the RB PCV in an effort to curb oil consumption on my N54. I was hoping for an improvement but there has been none in the 4 months or so I've had it installed. At the minimum, I hope it helps relieve crankcase pressure but I still have to add 1 qt between 1500~1700 miles. I am not really sure if the OCC will help but it can't hurt.

Thanks to SeanS54 for posting the data and pictures!
It may be good for you to have an occ to see how much oil collects, or if you are losing oil elsewhere.

On a side note, i have wondered if replacing the pcv hose 11157553949 has any benefits. Does this hose have a valve or is it just a hose?
__________________
335i e92 TPC 19Ts

Last edited by Sgop335; 08-06-2015 at 10:12 AM..
Appreciate 0
      08-06-2015, 10:28 AM   #16
WedgePerformance
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
WedgePerformance's Avatar
United_States
1341
Rep
1,701
Posts

Drives: Slot Machines.. Keep Taking $
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Portland, OR

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
I have heard stories of people having lots of oil and some with very little oil. The valve cover uses a cyclonic chamber to help prevent oil from escaping. You would think this would work well. I just rolled to 100k miles on my car so I replaced the valve cover as it needed a gasket anyway. I always had oil in my CP and I though it was mainly from the turbo seals. Two weeks after doing the valve cover, I put new HEXON RR550 turbos and TFT Inlet system on my car. The TFT has a vacuum line for the PCV which I hooked up to pull the crank case fumes back into the intake. The hose came loose and when hooking it back up noticed there was oil and not just a little... So I just ordered a BMS OCC and will be installing it this weekend. I highly doubt my turbos are leaking, but I have consumed a half quart of oil in the past 1000 miles. So it will be interesting to see how much oil I can catch...
Appreciate 0
      03-15-2016, 12:16 AM   #17
N54CoupeHP
Captain
N54CoupeHP's Avatar
United_States
71
Rep
648
Posts

Drives: 2012 335is
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: United States

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2012 335is  [9.66]
Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanS54 View Post
After 4 track events I checked my Oil Catch Can and it did it's job. Got about a table spoon of oil. Prior to the track events the can was empty with a light residue.

If you're driving hard and boosting more than stock I highly recommend an OCC.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions View Post
Oh it works. After 6,000 miles my car had about 1/4 of it full LOL.
Quote:
Originally Posted by EJ_3 View Post
Hmmm....I forgot I had this oil catch can, I should check it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 924er View Post
I got rid of my oil catch can. I just get my valves cleaned. As for the oil blow by around the FMIC and chargepipe, it doesn't bother me. Glad to see its working though
Quote:
Originally Posted by MineralweissIS View Post
You and I are in the same boat. I installed the RB PCV in an effort to curb oil consumption on my N54. I was hoping for an improvement but there has been none in the 4 months or so I've had it installed. At the minimum, I hope it helps relieve crankcase pressure but I still have to add 1 qt between 1500~1700 miles. I am not really sure if the OCC will help but it can't hurt.

Thanks to SeanS54 for posting the data and pictures!
For those running the BMS OCC, did you have to cut your engine cover?

Quote:
Originally Posted by WedgePerformance View Post
I have heard stories of people having lots of oil and some with very little oil. The valve cover uses a cyclonic chamber to help prevent oil from escaping. You would think this would work well. I just rolled to 100k miles on my car so I replaced the valve cover as it needed a gasket anyway. I always had oil in my CP and I though it was mainly from the turbo seals. Two weeks after doing the valve cover, I put new HEXON RR550 turbos and TFT Inlet system on my car. The TFT has a vacuum line for the PCV which I hooked up to pull the crank case fumes back into the intake. The hose came loose and when hooking it back up noticed there was oil and not just a little... So I just ordered a BMS OCC and will be installing it this weekend. I highly doubt my turbos are leaking, but I have consumed a half quart of oil in the past 1000 miles. So it will be interesting to see how much oil I can catch...
What were your findings?
__________________
2012 E92 335is | BSM/Coral Red | Moonroof Delete | 6MT
BQ Tuning | ar design DPs | M Performance Spoiler | Michelin PSS | Cyba Ram Air | VRSF CP | Fuel-It! Stg 2 LPFP
Split Armrest | LUX Reverse Lights | Rear Fog Lights Enabled
TOOK DELIVERY 24 OCT 2011 [FIRST PICS] [INTERIOR PICS]
Appreciate 0
      03-15-2016, 08:03 PM   #18
3.1L Z
Private First Class
3.1L Z's Avatar
26
Rep
186
Posts

Drives: '09 E92, Cobb AP
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: San Antonio

iTrader: (0)

Cut slightly. No big deal.
__________________

'11 E92, MSport
3 Pedal 3.1L Stroker Z
Appreciate 0
      03-15-2016, 09:40 PM   #19
tova86
RACE CAR!!
United_States
37
Rep
568
Posts

Drives: 09 335i AW sedan
Join Date: May 2013
Location: San Diego, CA

iTrader: (1)

used to have oil around my chargepipe on the inside.. the occ stopped it from happening again.. very happy with resuklts.
__________________
jb4/e85 wedgeflash, vanguard exhaust, wagner fmic, plm dps, dci, ER chargepipe, turbosmart bov, alpina flash,

msport w/ splitters, miro 111 19x9.5 all around , sonic tuning csl trunk, gloss black roof, st coilover, custom black/white umnitza V2 headlights
Appreciate 0
      03-21-2016, 01:13 AM   #20
N54CoupeHP
Captain
N54CoupeHP's Avatar
United_States
71
Rep
648
Posts

Drives: 2012 335is
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: United States

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2012 335is  [9.66]
BMS OCC

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3.1L Z View Post
Cut slightly. No big deal.
Do you have any pics?
__________________
2012 E92 335is | BSM/Coral Red | Moonroof Delete | 6MT
BQ Tuning | ar design DPs | M Performance Spoiler | Michelin PSS | Cyba Ram Air | VRSF CP | Fuel-It! Stg 2 LPFP
Split Armrest | LUX Reverse Lights | Rear Fog Lights Enabled
TOOK DELIVERY 24 OCT 2011 [FIRST PICS] [INTERIOR PICS]
Appreciate 0
      03-21-2016, 08:02 AM   #21
Boland01
Lieutenant
United_States
152
Rep
460
Posts

Drives: 2010 535ix, 2008, 2007 335i
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Magnolia, TX

iTrader: (0)

On our 2010 535i with 29K miles and a JB4 we get almost no oil in the BMS OCC. I run map 5. On our 2007 335i with 80K miles and a JB4, catless downpipes and a CRX FMIC we get several table spoons every oil change.

I don't know if it's mileage, tune or just randomness in the N54 motors but there seems to be a wide range on what gets past the valve cover.
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:17 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST