Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Poistion vs. Pirelli Pzero Nero M&S

Meats · 10-22-2007, 10:30 AM

I'm ditching the run flats and getting the M6 replicas, but am stuck on which tire to pair with the rims. I did my research and came to two conflicting sets of data on tirerack.

The Bridgestone's get killer survey results here:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...jsp?type=UHPAS

The Pirelli's outperform the Bridgestone's in Tirerack Tire Test here:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...ay.jsp?ttid=87

Further complicating the matter is that the Pirelli's would save me about $60 for a set, but the Bridgestone's come with a 40k warranty.

My car is a 2008 328xi, and I'll be driving in the northeast / midatlantic regions with 18in wheels, none staggered setup. Your expert opinions are appreciated.

ATG · 10-22-2007, 01:17 PM

I got a set of Yokohama advan s.4 10 days ago. So far, I like them. Will post a more detailed review later. That's another good candidate.

Meats · 10-22-2007, 01:50 PM

yeah, those have decent reviews too. kinda pricey though.

rlb · 10-22-2007, 02:37 PM

Check out the Goodyear Eagle F1 all seasons. They are about the same price as the potenza 960's and in a comparo test were better in the dry and wet than both the potenza 960's and the Pirelli PZero Nero M&S.

Meats · 10-22-2007, 02:52 PM

yes, those are in the 2nd link i provided. the goodyears were good, but not as good as the Pirellis'. If you have other information, please post, I would love to read it.

rlb · 10-22-2007, 04:14 PM

jkurgan,
I am deciding between the same tires as you. I am probably going to get the Goodyear F1 A/S. My decision was based on the same Tire Rack test in your
2nd link. The Goodyears were better in every objective test(braking distance, cornering, slolom, lap time) in both the wet and the dry. The difference in the dry was close but it was significantly better in the wet. The comments by both the Tire Rack testers and the personal reviews tend to concur with this. Subjectively, it seems like the Pirelli has a little better feel and is more geared towards the dry. I am in NJ and will be using my car year round. The Goodyears should do much better in the snow and the rain than the Pirelli's.

Kbueno · 10-22-2007, 04:24 PM

I have the Bridgestone 960s on my Lexus. Great tire, wears extremely well, quiet, and performs. Not as sticky as others.

Meats · 10-22-2007, 04:55 PM

thanks for the replies. i think i ruled out the Pirelli's but reconsidering the Goodyears now. I wish there was survey data on tirerack for those tires.

ATG · 10-22-2007, 04:59 PM

the difference between the pirellis and advan s.4 was only $175 for the set in my case.

dmichael · 01-15-2008, 10:50 AM

I have Bridestone potenza's in 18" size for sale, not sure if your still in the market. I will let them go cheap.

BMW MotorSport · 01-15-2008, 01:07 PM

Pireli's are NO good. I would do the Bridgestone for sure.

mrvuml · 01-15-2008, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMW MotorSport

Pireli's are NO good. I would do the Bridgestone for sure.

Whats wrong with the Pirellis? I've read several good reviews about them.
How about the Goodyear Eagle F1 all-seasons?

slider1 · 01-16-2008, 08:52 AM

I have the Bridgestones, 2k miles, quite. They actually were my only 19" A/S option since I got the sport package with summer tires ( and I'm in NY ) and upgraded to 275 30 19 and 235 35 19 tires on 19" wheels right after I got the car...

benyl · 01-16-2008, 05:29 PM

^ I have 275s in the back and 245s in the front of my M3 in the BS tires. They aren't the grippiest tire, but that works great for doing small drifts in low speed corners... haha

gthal · 01-16-2008, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMW MotorSport

Pireli's are NO good. I would do the Bridgestone for sure.

Curious as to why you think so... the Pirelli's get great reviews everywhere I look.

equ · 01-17-2008, 10:33 AM

I had the pirellis on my s4 avant (heavy & powerful). Very good tires for 3 seasons...

KanosWRX · 01-17-2008, 10:50 AM

I have run the RE960AS on my Legacy GT for about a year. They are amazing tires. I would say they are more oriented towards summer then winter however. I did a Subaru Challenge on them (Auto-X) and they performed amazingly well. I would say they are really close to the performance of a low end summer only tire which is pretty amazing. They also perform well in the rain with no surprises, very predictable break away. In my mind their is no better AS tire out right now.

Russell Mania · 01-18-2008, 10:16 AM

the bs over the pirellis.. the f1 all seasons pretty good too..

10-22-2007, 10:30 AM	#1
Meats Silky Johnson 12 Rep 105 Posts Drives: 2008 Jet Black 328xi Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: East Coast iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 328xi [0.00]	Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Poistion vs. Pirelli Pzero Nero M&S I'm ditching the run flats and getting the M6 replicas, but am stuck on which tire to pair with the rims. I did my research and came to two conflicting sets of data on tirerack. The Bridgestone's get killer survey results here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...jsp?type=UHPAS The Pirelli's outperform the Bridgestone's in Tirerack Tire Test here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...ay.jsp?ttid=87 Further complicating the matter is that the Pirelli's would save me about $60 for a set, but the Bridgestone's come with a 40k warranty. My car is a 2008 328xi, and I'll be driving in the northeast / midatlantic regions with 18in wheels, none staggered setup. Your expert opinions are appreciated. __________________ 2008 Jet Black 328xi \| 189 Wheels \| Nav \| Steptronic \| Sport Package \| Logic 7 \| Xenon \| BMW Assist \| Comfort Access \| Fold Down Seats \| iPod/USB \| HD Radio \| 35% CS Tints \| Happy Robot \| V1 Hardwire \| Homelink Retrofit \| Depo Blacklines \|
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ATG Major 77 Rep 1,058 Posts Drives: f30 328 xdrive, e90 335i gone Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Eastside iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW 328i xdrive [0.00] 2007 e90 335i [0.00]	I got a set of Yokohama advan s.4 10 days ago. So far, I like them. Will post a more detailed review later. That's another good candidate.
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Meats Silky Johnson 12 Rep 105 Posts Drives: 2008 Jet Black 328xi Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: East Coast iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 328xi [0.00]	yeah, those have decent reviews too. kinda pricey though. __________________ 2008 Jet Black 328xi \| 189 Wheels \| Nav \| Steptronic \| Sport Package \| Logic 7 \| Xenon \| BMW Assist \| Comfort Access \| Fold Down Seats \| iPod/USB \| HD Radio \| 35% CS Tints \| Happy Robot \| V1 Hardwire \| Homelink Retrofit \| Depo Blacklines \|
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10-22-2007, 02:37 PM	#4
rlb Private First Class 6 Rep 117 Posts Drives: 335i, 300ZX Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northern NJ iTrader: (0)	Check out the Goodyear Eagle F1 all seasons. They are about the same price as the potenza 960's and in a comparo test were better in the dry and wet than both the potenza 960's and the Pirelli PZero Nero M&S.
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Meats Silky Johnson 12 Rep 105 Posts Drives: 2008 Jet Black 328xi Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: East Coast iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 328xi [0.00]	yes, those are in the 2nd link i provided. the goodyears were good, but not as good as the Pirellis'. If you have other information, please post, I would love to read it. __________________ 2008 Jet Black 328xi \| 189 Wheels \| Nav \| Steptronic \| Sport Package \| Logic 7 \| Xenon \| BMW Assist \| Comfort Access \| Fold Down Seats \| iPod/USB \| HD Radio \| 35% CS Tints \| Happy Robot \| V1 Hardwire \| Homelink Retrofit \| Depo Blacklines \|
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10-22-2007, 04:14 PM	#6
rlb Private First Class 6 Rep 117 Posts Drives: 335i, 300ZX Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northern NJ iTrader: (0)	jkurgan, I am deciding between the same tires as you. I am probably going to get the Goodyear F1 A/S. My decision was based on the same Tire Rack test in your 2nd link. The Goodyears were better in every objective test(braking distance, cornering, slolom, lap time) in both the wet and the dry. The difference in the dry was close but it was significantly better in the wet. The comments by both the Tire Rack testers and the personal reviews tend to concur with this. Subjectively, it seems like the Pirelli has a little better feel and is more geared towards the dry. I am in NJ and will be using my car year round. The Goodyears should do much better in the snow and the rain than the Pirelli's.
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10-22-2007, 04:24 PM	#7
Kbueno Lieutenant Colonel 102 Rep 1,712 Posts Drives: F82 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: California iTrader: (5)	I have the Bridgestone 960s on my Lexus. Great tire, wears extremely well, quiet, and performs. Not as sticky as others.
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Meats Silky Johnson 12 Rep 105 Posts Drives: 2008 Jet Black 328xi Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: East Coast iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 328xi [0.00]	thanks for the replies. i think i ruled out the Pirelli's but reconsidering the Goodyears now. I wish there was survey data on tirerack for those tires. __________________ 2008 Jet Black 328xi \| 189 Wheels \| Nav \| Steptronic \| Sport Package \| Logic 7 \| Xenon \| BMW Assist \| Comfort Access \| Fold Down Seats \| iPod/USB \| HD Radio \| 35% CS Tints \| Happy Robot \| V1 Hardwire \| Homelink Retrofit \| Depo Blacklines \|
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10-22-2007, 04:59 PM	#9
ATG Major 77 Rep 1,058 Posts Drives: f30 328 xdrive, e90 335i gone Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Eastside iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW 328i xdrive [0.00] 2007 e90 335i [0.00]	the difference between the pirellis and advan s.4 was only $175 for the set in my case.
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01-15-2008, 10:50 AM	#10
dmichael Lieutenant 31 Rep 452 Posts Drives: 2011 GTI Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Massachusetts iTrader: (1)	I have Bridestone potenza's in 18" size for sale, not sure if your still in the market. I will let them go cheap. __________________ 2008 E90 328i - Sparkling Graphite/Terra/Dark Burl, 6MT, Sport, Premuim, Fold-down seats, iPod/USB(6FL). M-Sport Steering Wheel, ZHP M-Sport Shift knob, Euro fog lights. Euro Split Armrest
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01-15-2008, 01:07 PM	#11
BMW MotorSport Banned 106 Rep 2,528 Posts Drives: 95 Avus M3 and 07 E90 Fam Car! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: So Cal, Simi Valley iTrader: (4)	Pireli's are NO good. I would do the Bridgestone for sure.
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01-16-2008, 08:52 AM	#13
slider1 Enlisted Member 2 Rep 39 Posts Drives: 2015 MG M4 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: new york iTrader: (0)	I have the Bridgestones, 2k miles, quite. They actually were my only 19" A/S option since I got the sport package with summer tires ( and I'm in NY ) and upgraded to 275 30 19 and 235 35 19 tires on 19" wheels right after I got the car...
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benyl Lieutenant 6 Rep 408 Posts Drives: '08 335i, '10 W204 w/m156 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Calgary iTrader: (0)	^ I have 275s in the back and 245s in the front of my M3 in the BS tires. They aren't the grippiest tire, but that works great for doing small drifts in low speed corners... haha __________________ E92 335iA, AW on BLK, Al trim, Premium, Nav, 6FL, CA, Sport, PDC, Paddles... W204 C63, OBS on BLK, Carbon Trim, Premium, Performance, Rev Cam, and stock exhaust...
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01-17-2008, 10:33 AM	#16
equ First Lieutenant 22 Rep 331 Posts Drives: Croc & toaster Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dogville iTrader: (10)	I had the pirellis on my s4 avant (heavy & powerful). Very good tires for 3 seasons...
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01-17-2008, 10:50 AM	#17
KanosWRX Lieutenant 12 Rep 412 Posts Drives: E92 AW 335i / 1994 Miata R Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fairfax, VA iTrader: (0)	I have run the RE960AS on my Legacy GT for about a year. They are amazing tires. I would say they are more oriented towards summer then winter however. I did a Subaru Challenge on them (Auto-X) and they performed amazingly well. I would say they are really close to the performance of a low end summer only tire which is pretty amazing. They also perform well in the rain with no surprises, very predictable break away. In my mind their is no better AS tire out right now. __________________ "The most important mod is the one behind the steering wheel" - Koyokid RIP
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01-18-2008, 10:16 AM	#18
Russell Mania Private 0 Rep 65 Posts Drives: E90 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	the bs over the pirellis.. the f1 all seasons pretty good too..
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