MHD E60

E92FAST · 08-25-2016, 01:52 PM

I have a 335is FBO currently using E40 map with stock fuel pump and car is running great.... just wondering if e60 on the stock pump is cool to use.

Antetokounmpo · 08-25-2016, 02:10 PM

No, no, and no.

RCOLEMAN545 · 08-25-2016, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by E92FAST

I have a 335is FBO currently using E40 map with stock fuel pump and car is running great.... just wondering if e60 on the stock pump is cool to use.

My stock pump nosedives with 2-3 gallons of E85, I doubt any stock pump could handle E60. Not for very long anyway.

JasW · 08-25-2016, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by E92FAST

I have a 335is FBO currently using E40 map with stock fuel pump and car is running great.... just wondering if e60 on the stock pump is cool to use.

I wouldn't go much above E30 on a stock pump. But I will tell you it's absolutely worth it to get the stage 2 LPFP upgrade from Steve at Fuel-It.

ferocity02 · 08-25-2016, 03:16 PM

My stock pump was at it's limit with E40.

Also, the fuel scalars in the map are for E40. If change the fuel the trims will be out of whack. There might be enough room for it to compensate, but I wouldn't risk it.

TrollToll · 08-25-2016, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ferocity02

My stock pump was at it's limit with E40.

Also, the fuel scalars in the map are for E40. If change the fuel the trims will be out of whack. There might be enough room for it to compensate, but I wouldn't risk it.

He's probably talking about the new MHD E60 map, but it still isn't likely a stock pump can do it. Not with a 3 series at least.

mike@x-ph.com · 08-25-2016, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by E92FAST

I have a 335is FBO currently using E40 map with stock fuel pump and car is running great.... just wondering if e60 on the stock pump is cool to use.

Get the fuel it stage 2 kit and you will be able to run E60 maps

ferocity02 · 08-25-2016, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere90

He's probably talking about the new MHD E60 map, but it still isn't likely a stock pump can do it. Not with a 3 series at least.

I didn't know there was an E60 map

Anyone know boost this targets? Risks on stock turbos?

I've used the E40 map plenty of times and love it.

csu87 · 08-26-2016, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ferocity02

I didn't know there was an E60 map

Anyone know boost this targets? Risks on stock turbos?

I've used the E40 map plenty of times and love it.

lots of people run e60+ on stock turbos. No more risk than normal.

michael1972 · 08-26-2016, 10:50 AM

You can run e60 with a stage 1 fuel it kit. I have been running custom e60 maps from Wedge for a few years with just a stage 1.

ferocity02 · 08-26-2016, 11:15 AM

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lots of people run e60+ on stock turbos. No more risk than normal.

The risk is in the boost targets, not the fuel. Hence why I was asking what the boost targets are. Targeting 25psi on stock turbos is a great way to kill them quickly.

hellokitty · 08-26-2016, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ferocity02

The risk is in the boost targets, not the fuel. Hence why I was asking what the boost targets are. Targeting 25psi on stock turbos is a great way to kill them quickly.

If its anything like my E50 map, 20 psi peak tapering down to 16 psi. Also likely increased timing compared to E40.

MHD Tuning · 08-26-2016, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ferocity02

The risk is in the boost targets, not the fuel. Hence why I was asking what the boost targets are. Targeting 25psi on stock turbos is a great way to kill them quickly.

Load (so boost) target is only slightly stronger than e40 at 5500-6000. It's more the timing that got bumped over e40. But nothing crazy either.

csu87 · 08-26-2016, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ferocity02

The risk is in the boost targets, not the fuel. Hence why I was asking what the boost targets are. Targeting 25psi on stock turbos is a great way to kill them quickly.

considering youd need to get one of the higher pressure tmap sensors to accurately target 25psi, im 99.9% sure they wouldnt do that for an OTS map

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