[squeezebm]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Alpinwah. Still aint seen a E92 B3 on the road yet.

Don't think they are out yet

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by squeezebm

Don't think they are out yet

thats probably why then...

[squeezebm]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

thats probably why then...

or you were going so fast to catch a look at the M that you didn't see it pass the B3

[Steve A]

Originally Posted by squeezebm

or you were going so fast to catch a look at the M that you didn't see it pass the B3

woulndt be so sure ther matey check my thread from a while ago

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85806

B3 has more power and torque available over more of the powerband so unless the M3 driver is on track i think the B3 would have the edge..........should of saved yourself 15k

[squeezebm]

Originally Posted by Steve A

woulndt be so sure ther matey check my thread from a while ago

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85806

B3 has more power and torque available over more of the powerband so unless the M3 driver is on track i think the B3 would have the edge..........should of saved yourself 15k

Driven BOTH and made my decision...................try making your own

[NFS]

Originally Posted by 1stnewcar

I'd read the opposite - Viv may want to move this blatant thread hijack into its own thread??

Originally Posted by dxb335d

What sources NFS?

The reviews I have seen rate the S5 as a comfy cruiser, but they don't rave about the dynamics:

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc...9/audi_s5.html

Originally Posted by EVO

And there’s no denying the deep reserves of grip or the S5’s fluent way of stringing together combinations of bends. Yet the process isn’t nearly as involving as it is uniformly competent. It’s a maximum grip ‘n’ grunt deal. The rewards for a press-on approach are measured out in ground covered for time elapsed rather than smiles per mile. Just as the S5 refuses to be ruffled, so does the driver’s pulse rate.

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol...cle1682005.ece

Originally Posted by The Times

If all roads were straight and smooth, you’d be looking at the new best car in the class. Unfortunately they’re not, so you aren’t. It used to be with a sense of weary inevitability that I would discover yet another sporting Audi that failed in the corners to match standards set on the straights, but I really did think this one would be different.

http://www.topgear.com/content/featu...ries/10/1.html

Originally Posted by topgear

Then we get the vexed issue of handling. You sure get easy, very rapid travel. I love the reassuring traction when the road gets patchily wet or slippery. The steering isn't only accurate, it has useful feel to it.

But the message it sends out never varies. I'm understeering, it says, and there's nothing you can do about it. It's gentle, harmless understeer, but trimming the throttle doesn't alter the attitude one bit. I'm not asking for lairy slides here, but I do want to be able to point the nose inward by lifting-off or slightly edge the load onto the rear tyres by accelerating, and I want more of a sense that the car's enjoying the experience rather than just tolerating it

The impression I have of the car is that it is an accomplished cruiser, but not dynamically as exiting as some of it's rivals. More of a rival to Mercedes than BMW.

That being the case the A5 3.0d seems to be very nearly as good and cost a great deal less.

[mjh93sa]

Originally Posted by needforspeed

.....

The impression I have of the car is that it is an accomplished cruiser, but not dynamically as exiting as some of it's rivals. More of a rival to Mercedes than BMW.

That being the case the A5 3.0d seems to be very nearly as good and cost a great deal less.

Is that really NFS saying that a diesel would be better than petrol?

[vivekk]

Originally Posted by 1stnewcar

I'd read the opposite - Viv may want to move this blatant thread hijack into its own thread??

No- I'm happy leaving it just where it is, Paul.

Viv

[booforty]

"...Makes overtaking National Express coaches a long drawn out affair... Not my words Carol, the words of Top Gear magazine..."

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by needforspeed

The reviews I have seen rate the S5 as a comfy cruiser, but they don't rave about the dynamics:

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc...9/audi_s5.html



http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol...cle1682005.ece



http://www.topgear.com/content/featu...ries/10/1.html



The impression I have of the car is that it is an accomplished cruiser, but not dynamically as exiting as some of it's rivals. More of a rival to Mercedes than BMW.

That being the case the A5 3.0d seems to be very nearly as good and cost a great deal less.

I dont agree.

The A5 3.0tdi is miles away from the S5.. (I have driven the 3.0tdi, and been a passenger int he v8)

The diesel feels majorly slower than the s5 wheres as the two bmw's (335i and 335d) feel as quick as each other.

So the choice between the 335d and 335i is a harder one compared to an S5 or A5 3.0TDI.

[pumaknight]

For clarity and to ensure that nobody mis-enterprets my original post - the 3 series is a great handling car - definately. I didn't want people to think that I was in any way saying the 3 wasn't a great handling car!!

I felt that the 135i handled a little better for me.

I suppose that is like saying whether you prefer Kate Moss or Claudia Schiffer, depends on preference, but you wouldn't say either was ugly.

so my bad to all if you thought I was saying the 3 was a dog - don't forget that I really wanted one and if my wife didn't have one I would be posting here saying "Guess what I bought a 335i".

Peace out all :-)

[dxb335d]

Peace out brutha!

Enjoy your new ride mo fo

[pumaknight]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Peace out brutha!

Enjoy your new ride mo fo

Ta....oh and I would have had those wheels - they are bitchin!

[NFS]

Originally Posted by pumaknight

For clarity and to ensure that nobody mis-enterprets my original post - the 3 series is a great handling car - definately. I didn't want people to think that I was in any way saying the 3 wasn't a great handling car!!

I felt that the 135i handled a little better for me.

I suppose that is like saying whether you prefer Kate Moss or Claudia Schiffer, depends on preference, but you wouldn't say either was ugly.

so my bad to all if you thought I was saying the 3 was a dog - don't forget that I really wanted one and if my wife didn't have one I would be posting here saying "Guess what I bought a 335i".

Peace out all :-)

Don't worry. I didn't think you were going having a pop at the 3 series at all.

We are all entitled to our opinions (even Carlos) and I can seriously see the attraction of the 135i.

I was just trying to pick up on the reasons why you felt the 1 series handled better.

I myself swapped my first 5 series for a 3 series after 6 months because I felt the 5 was too big and not nimble enough. There isn't a massive weight difference there either because so much of the e60 is aluminium. However, the handling in the 3 is MUCH sharper.

I'm sure that the 1 series smaller scale makes it easier to place on the road with confidence.

[NFS]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

I dont agree.

The A5 3.0tdi is miles away from the S5.. (I have driven the 3.0tdi, and been a passenger int he v8)

The diesel feels majorly slower than the s5 wheres as the two bmw's (335i and 335d) feel as quick as each other.

So the choice between the 335d and 335i is a harder one compared to an S5 or A5 3.0TDI.

335d vs 335i is not the same as S5 vs A5 3.0TDi

A better comparison is 335d vs M3.

The M3 is definitely 'better' enough to justify it's existence. The S5 might not be.

The RS5 should sort this out nicely, but in the meantime I think it's a shame that the S5 isn't dynamically as capable as the RS4

[Steve A]

Originally Posted by squeezebm

Driven BOTH and made my decision...................try making your own

i have done bought the Merc and a B3 Touring when it comes out that way i get best of both worlds