procede causes wastegate rattle

gerardm · 06-01-2010, 04:08 PM

first i go stock, then enable the v4 then back to stock. its so obnoxiously loud. sucks but kind of funny in a sad way. theres gotta be something that can be done

mwahlert · 06-01-2010, 04:12 PM

i didn't realize we captured the red rocket in our filming.

gerardm · 06-01-2010, 04:12 PM

lolol, its looking glorious

OpenFlash · 06-01-2010, 04:16 PM

We are going to allow the end user to set the base wastegate DC% at idle, cruise and deccel with the next user software update.

If you are hear rattle with the procede in only, it's because you have the DME software that "masks" the problem by opening up the wastegates at idle/cruise/deccel. Which causes noticeable lag.

The real solution is to get your wastegates replaced. But until then, this adjustable will allow you to mask the problem.

Shiv

scottp999 · 06-01-2010, 04:20 PM

I wish the volume on your recording was better. I don't think I hear that on my car, which I guess is a great thing.

My software is from 04/2007 and has never been updated.

gerardm · 06-01-2010, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

We are going to allow the end user to set the base wastegate DC% at idle, cruise and deccel with the next user software update.

If you are hear rattle with the procede in only, it's because you have the DME software that "masks" the problem by opening up the wastegates at idle/cruise/deccel. Which causes noticeable lag.

The real solution is to get your wastegates replaced. But until then, this adjustable will allow you to mask the problem.

Shiv

works for me. its hard to go in and complain to bmw about a rattle that doesn't exist because of there 'fix'. going in and complaining about turbo lag is not something i would like to do

mwahlert · 06-01-2010, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

We are going to allow the end user to set the base wastegate DC% at idle, cruise and deccel with the next user software update.

If you are hear rattle with the procede in only, it's because you have the DME software that "masks" the problem by opening up the wastegates at idle/cruise/deccel. Which causes noticeable lag.

The real solution is to get your wastegates replaced. But until then, this adjustable will allow you to mask the problem.

Shiv

how does one convince dealership to replace wastegates if they have installed software which "masks" said problem? one can not walk into dealership and say that problem only occurs when my tune is installed and bypasses said masking of issue.

OpenFlash · 06-01-2010, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gerardm

works for me. its hard to go in and complain to bmw about a rattle that doesn't exist because of there 'fix'. going in and complaining about turbo lag is not something i would like to do

I'm afraid that is the only way of doing it. You'll have to complain of turbo lag from the software. And then have the update to the newest software. Which will bring the rattle back. At that point, the only thing they can do is replace the wastegates (or possibly even the turbos).

Shiv

AltecBX · 06-01-2010, 04:58 PM

What are the lifespan of the wastegates? I hear the same thing when I first turn on the car. I have 29,500 miles thus far.

Can Autotune adjust this for us automatically?

joec500 · 06-01-2010, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AltecBX

What are the lifespan of the wastegates? I hear the same thing when I first turn on the car. I have 29,500 miles thus far.

Can Autotune adjust this for us automatically?

Mine started to rattle A LOT around 40k miles, turbos replaced at 47k miles. Rattles are all gone

Tyler0630 · 06-21-2010, 02:53 AM

My car does the same noise, though not as loud, and only when my engine is cold.

OP: does it still rattle at normal temperatures?

OpenFlash · 06-21-2010, 03:06 AM

With the 6-16 maps, we incorporated an adjustment for wastegate position during idle, cruise and deccel. If you have rattling wastegates, this will reduce or eliminate the rattle during these conditions.

Shiv

Arnold_Powers · 06-21-2010, 03:17 AM

my friends was making this noise.. check to see if the procede through any codes. take it to dealer. they will swap ur wastegates and ur turbos most likey

luckyblack · 11-03-2016, 10:09 PM

Yes i know this thread is 7 years old. This is the same issue i am currently having with my Procede. No tune no rattle, tune on and it rattles.

I am going to hookup my labtop to the procede this weekend. Somebody please tell me what map i should update to and what setting i need to enable or disable to make the rattle go away. I hope it works with windows 10 ??

And if that doesn't do it, well i guess its new turbos for me even though they spool pretty dang good.

YoungBlood · 11-03-2016, 11:25 PM

you need to figure out what your stock flash is. I thought the same thing with mhd. Turned out the stock flash I had left the wastegates open at idle/cruising, and the flash closed them during these times, so I believed my issue was the tune. Turns out my wastegates were just worn to start with. I adjusted the actuator rods, and no more rattle on any tune

took about 2 hours of my time total.

luckyblack · 11-05-2016, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by YoungBlood

you need to figure out what your stock flash is. I thought the same thing with mhd. Turned out the stock flash I had left the wastegates open at idle/cruising, and the flash closed them during these times, so I believed my issue was the tune. Turns out my wastegates were just worn to start with. I adjusted the actuator rods, and no more rattle on any tune

took about 2 hours of my time total.

I have tried and tried again to tighten my wastegate rod. I get the nut broke lose but cant get the rod to turn. It sounds like a spring compressing when i wrench it. I got worried it might break. I only get rattle on deceleration and at startup

jjbmuu · 11-05-2016, 06:41 PM

Did you try setting the Wgate Position setting to 30 under the user programmable options menu?

jjbmuu · 11-05-2016, 06:45 PM

Take a picture of that whole screen and post it, and load the aggressive stage map whatever based on mods off the site if you haven't already. I'm running one to control meth along with mhd and have it setup and working great. Let us know what your plans are or if you need any other help.

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gerardm Captain 31 Rep 703 Posts Drives: '07 335i Sedan - Alpine White Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Rocky Point, NY iTrader: (5)	procede causes wastegate rattle first i go stock, then enable the v4 then back to stock. its so obnoxiously loud. sucks but kind of funny in a sad way. theres gotta be something that can be done
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mwahlert Lieutenant Colonel 97 Rep 1,659 Posts Drives: 2009 335i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NC iTrader: (8)	i didn't realize we captured the red rocket in our filming.
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gerardm Captain 31 Rep 703 Posts Drives: '07 335i Sedan - Alpine White Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Rocky Point, NY iTrader: (5)	lolol, its looking glorious
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OpenFlash 1806 Rep 17,960 Posts Drives: A Lot Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SF Bay, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 Ducati Panigal ... [0.00] 2016 Mazda CX5 [0.00] 2017 Aprilia Tuono ... [0.00] 2019 BMW M2 Competi ... [0.00] 2015 BMW M5 Competi ... [10.00] 2016 Ducati XDiavel S [0.00] 2016 AMG GT S [0.00] 2011 Ferrari 458 It ... [0.00] 2017 Charger Hellcat [0.00] 2015 KTM Super Duke ... [0.00] 2016 KTM RC390 [0.00]	We are going to allow the end user to set the base wastegate DC% at idle, cruise and deccel with the next user software update. If you are hear rattle with the procede in only, it's because you have the DME software that "masks" the problem by opening up the wastegates at idle/cruise/deccel. Which causes noticeable lag. The real solution is to get your wastegates replaced. But until then, this adjustable will allow you to mask the problem. Shiv
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scottp999 Brigadier General 136 Rep 4,764 Posts Drives: 4runner SR5 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: MD iTrader: (2) Garage List 2007 BMW 335 [9.00]	I wish the volume on your recording was better. I don't think I hear that on my car, which I guess is a great thing. My software is from 04/2007 and has never been updated.
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AltecBX Colonel 336 Rep 2,663 Posts Drives: BMW 335xi Sedan; BMW M3 ZCP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 BMW M3 ZCP [0.00] 2007 BMW 335Xi [0.00]	What are the lifespan of the wastegates? I hear the same thing when I first turn on the car. I have 29,500 miles thus far. Can Autotune adjust this for us automatically? __________________ 335xi Sedan 6AT \| Weather(70-85°F) \| N54 Tune Comparison Chart \|\| N54 Turbo Upgrade Comparison Chart -PROcede Rev. 2.5 ~ v5 (3/17 maps) / JB4 (8/21 maps) / COBB (Stg2+FMIC LT Aggressive maps) †Procede Map2(UT 45 - IGN 40) Aggression Target 2.0 \| 0-60 in 4.0sec \|\| †Cobb E30 LT (35% Ethanol/65% 93 Octane) \| 0-60 in 3.9sec AR Design Catless DP \| BMS DCI + OCC \| ETS 5 FMIC \| Alpina B3 Trans Flash \|235/265 19" Michelin PSS
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Tyler0630 Private First Class 13 Rep 131 Posts Drives: e36, e46, e92, e90 m3, f82 m4 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hawaii iTrader: (0)	My car does the same noise, though not as loud, and only when my engine is cold. OP: does it still rattle at normal temperatures?
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OpenFlash 1806 Rep 17,960 Posts Drives: A Lot Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SF Bay, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 Ducati Panigal ... [0.00] 2016 Mazda CX5 [0.00] 2017 Aprilia Tuono ... [0.00] 2019 BMW M2 Competi ... [0.00] 2015 BMW M5 Competi ... [10.00] 2016 Ducati XDiavel S [0.00] 2016 AMG GT S [0.00] 2011 Ferrari 458 It ... [0.00] 2017 Charger Hellcat [0.00] 2015 KTM Super Duke ... [0.00] 2016 KTM RC390 [0.00]	With the 6-16 maps, we incorporated an adjustment for wastegate position during idle, cruise and deccel. If you have rattling wastegates, this will reduce or eliminate the rattle during these conditions. Shiv
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Arnold_Powers that M guy 141 Rep 1,132 Posts Drives: F82 M4 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (6)	my friends was making this noise.. check to see if the procede through any codes. take it to dealer. they will swap ur wastegates and ur turbos most likey
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luckyblack Private 13 Rep 82 Posts Drives: 2006/7 BMW 335XI Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: VA iTrader: (0)	Yes i know this thread is 7 years old. This is the same issue i am currently having with my Procede. No tune no rattle, tune on and it rattles. I am going to hookup my labtop to the procede this weekend. Somebody please tell me what map i should update to and what setting i need to enable or disable to make the rattle go away. I hope it works with windows 10 ?? And if that doesn't do it, well i guess its new turbos for me even though they spool pretty dang good.
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YoungBlood LongDongSilver 276 Rep 706 Posts Drives: e90 335i Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Utah iTrader: (2)	you need to figure out what your stock flash is. I thought the same thing with mhd. Turned out the stock flash I had left the wastegates open at idle/cruising, and the flash closed them during these times, so I believed my issue was the tune. Turns out my wastegates were just worn to start with. I adjusted the actuator rods, and no more rattle on any tune took about 2 hours of my time total. __________________ N54 E90 6AT: 3" Pipes that go down, Thing that cools the inter, PE Mod, DCI, ST XTA, Whiteline bushings, Aodhan, and lotsa corn-juice
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jjbmuu 4ut0strd4 47 Rep 223 Posts Drives: 08 AW E92 335i 6 Speed Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	Did you try setting the Wgate Position setting to 30 under the user programmable options menu?
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jjbmuu 4ut0strd4 47 Rep 223 Posts Drives: 08 AW E92 335i 6 Speed Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	Take a picture of that whole screen and post it, and load the aggressive stage map whatever based on mods off the site if you haven't already. I'm running one to control meth along with mhd and have it setup and working great. Let us know what your plans are or if you need any other help.
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