[firedown31]

Originally Posted by beto_L.A.

On my current 2015 428i GC:
4 Years or 50k miles
Brake service:
Pads and rotors are covered.
If I get the 2018 GC:
3yrs. 36k miles
BRAKES & ROTORS
are no longer replaced under warranty.
I'm in the US and that was the best warranty program of any brand.

Maintenance.. you're talking about maintenance. People keep quoting you and correcting you because you don't understand the difference between the words warranty and maintenance. Warranty has not changed, maintenance has.

[scoale]

BMW no longer feels as special as it once did - to ME. BMW's driving dynamics advantage has been muted and its styling and technology are unremarkable. It also seems like, maybe, BMW is starting to pursue MB and Audi versus the other way around.

http://auto.ndtv.com/news/mercedes-b...om-bmw-1646630

Having said that, I recognize that I am no longer the target consumer. I also recognize that the U.S. is not BMW's only market and, maybe, not its most important. I'm not an SAV or I3 guy. I've owned an enjoyed a lot of BMW's but it is not clear that I'll own another.

[Bimar]

You gotta admit Merc is creating more stylish exteriors and beautiful interiors...isn't that what luxury is about BMW? Bmw is becoming stale.

[scoleda]

Originally Posted by X4guy

You gotta admit Merc is creating more stylish exteriors and beautiful interiors...isn't that what luxury is about BMW? Bmw is becoming stale.

PITCHFORKS!!!!!!

[rainfall]

they need a 4-door 2 series.
The current 3 series is really spacious and has pretty decent handling, but it's kinda big for some customers.

The current 2 series is a cool looking car, pretty snappy and stuff, but some customers do need the extra 2 doors for small kids/other reasons. There is no 1-series hatchback option in USA, one of BMW's biggest market.

[beto_L.A.]

Originally Posted by InsideMan

You'll be fine. Have you ever needed brakes? Exactly my point.

BMW found they were more often performing maintenance on cars that were bought at auction and ending up at little luxury corner lots. There is a lot more to selling cars than pleasing the .00001% of forum bros.

In the end, it's their product and their goals and objectives. If they don't meet them, something will change. They want more people to lease. They want more people to rotate out of cars. You don't want to play that game? Leave. Change brands. ??

I had to replace the rear brakes @ 20K miles and the front brakes will be replaced next week @ 22K miles... Yes I have the ///M brakes that I didn't choose, so I'm aware that the wear of the those brakes is faster, but in the past I had the brakes done on all of my cars at least one time.
I won't be leaving the brand, I'm getting ready to place another order, but the brand used to feel more special then now...
I will move on and will place my order 430i GC!!!
let the waiting game begin!!!

[beto_L.A.]

Originally Posted by firedown31

Maintenance.. you're talking about maintenance. People keep quoting you and correcting you because you don't understand the difference between the words warranty and maintenance. Warranty has not changed, maintenance has.

you are correct about maintenance... but the WARRANTY period of new cars has changed from 4yrs/50k miles to 3yrs/36k miles... 1 year was removed.
this is for BMW NA by the way.....

[jpnh]

Originally Posted by beto_L.A.

you are correct about maintenance... but the WARRANTY period of new cars has changed from 4yrs/50k miles to 3yrs/36k miles... 1 year was removed.
this is for BMW NA by the way.....

That is incorrect

Maint is 3/36
Warranty is unchanged at 4/48

This is specific to 2017