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      02-05-2017, 09:40 AM   #1
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not possible to disable cold/warm bulb check with front fogs

does anyone know why it is not possible to disable cold/warm check of front fog bulbs on e90 lci module called frm3_e89.c32? car is e90 lci sedan.

i was requested from a friend of mine to disable clod/warm check of front fog. then i did the following code to diactivate as usual way. however the result was not reflected as 'nicht_aktiv' but kept as 'aktiv'...

KALTUE_NSW_M2_37_M1_3_C32
WARMUE_NSW_M2_37_M1_3_C32

i attemted to change them to 'nicht_aktiv' from 'aktiv' but it was not...
is there any restriction for this changes?
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      02-05-2017, 11:14 AM   #2
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does anyone know why it is not possible to disable cold/warm check of front fog bulbs on e90 lci module called frm3_e89.c32? car is e90 lci sedan.

i was requested from a friend of mine to disable clod/warm check of front fog. then i did the following code to diactivate as usual way. however the result was not reflected as 'nicht_aktiv' but kept as 'aktiv'...

KALTUE_NSW_M2_37_M1_3_C32
WARMUE_NSW_M2_37_M1_3_C32

i attemted to change them to 'nicht_aktiv' from 'aktiv' but it was not...
is there any restriction for this changes?
There are no restrictions. Make sure you're using the correct profile and attempt the job a few more times. I've heard of instances where persistence was the key...
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      02-05-2017, 11:42 AM   #3
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There are no restrictions. Make sure you're using the correct profile and attempt the job a few more times. I've heard of instances where persistence was the key...
hello,

thankyou for your comment.
i tryed to do it with cautions a couple of times but was unable to make it...
i have done many types of coding menus so far and have done other cold/warm disabling menus such as rear braks and revers lamps...

i thought that there were restrictions on some modules especially for the latest one as it depends upon version... because one which is frm2 on my car was no problem...

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      02-05-2017, 12:43 PM   #4
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You can definitely disable them. Sounds like your not using the right profile to write from man file...
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You can definitely disable them. Sounds like your not using the right profile to write from man file...
may be, we need to focus on the module version. because i faced the problem with only frm3 so far whereas the one i have successfully done was frm2...
in addition the problem is seen only with front fog (i have not tested rear fog yet) so far but not seen with others such as brakes, reserve lights...

OK: frm2_e89.c01
NOK: frm3_e89.c32

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You can definitely disable them. Sounds like your not using the right profile to write from man file...
may be, we need to focus on the module version. because i faced the problem with only frm3 so far whereas the one i have successfully done was frm2...
in addition the problem is seen only with front fog (i have not tested rear fog yet) so far but not seen with others such as brakes, reserve lights...

OK: frm2_e89.c01
NOK: frm3_e89.c32

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I just installed leds in the fogs & angels eyes on a 2011 e90 335i on Tuesday & disabled the corresponding bulb checks.

I didn't note the index file that was used though. If your absolutely positive the changes arent sticking with the proper profile needed, see if coding through nettodat will stick.

If still no luck after nettodat, find the earliest SW variant available for that part number & flash over to it, then see if nettodat or TRC coding sticks.....
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      02-06-2017, 12:03 AM   #7
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post link to your trc file, ill take a look
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I just installed leds in the fogs & angels eyes on a 2011 e90 335i on Tuesday & disabled the corresponding bulb checks.

I didn't note the index file that was used though. If your absolutely positive the changes arent sticking with the proper profile needed, see if coding through nettodat will stick.

If still no luck after nettodat, find the earliest SW variant available for that part number & flash over to it, then see if nettodat or TRC coding sticks.....
i hope the change can be done before replacing with leds. i was requested from a friend of mine to have change beforehand.
yes, it is good to do coding through nettodat by ncsdummy as last resort.

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post link to your trc file, ill take a look
Thanks! i will upload trc file once i go back home...

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post link to your trc file, ill take a look
hello Levanime,
here is trc file for frm3_e89.c32. please kindly look at this...
http://fast-uploader.com/file/7041954371832/

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try this one
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...78/FSW_PSW.MAN

but double check which profile are you doing it with
it should not be expert profile, i.e. manipulation should be on
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try this one
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...78/FSW_PSW.MAN

but double check which profile are you doing it with
it should not be expert profile, i.e. manipulation should be on
Thanks.
yes, did you change the following parameter to 'nicht_aktiv'? those are only the one you changed?

KALTUE_NSW_M2_37_M1_3_C32
nicht_aktiv
WARMUE_NSW_M2_37_M1_3_C32
nicht_aktiv

yes, i did and changed to .man file for coding.
in FSW/PSW profile, i ticked two boxes as below. however i always use profile created by ncsdummy which has enabled the following ones.

FSW-/PSW-Trace
FSW-/PSW-Manipulate with FSW_PSW.MAN

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did it work?
if not i will help you over teamviewer
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did it work?
if not i will help you over teamviewer
no. i tried to change them but value remain the same (stay as 'aktiv'). The car i want to change is friend's one, not with me now...

i saw a similar phenomenon for bfd lamps. tried to disable bulb check but was not possible. then i found 'BREMSL_FKT_MIT_BFD' which enables both bdf and brake lights are working simultaneously. so i disabled this and tried to have bdf bulb check disabled. then confirmed it worked. therefore i thought that there are some conditions for the specific menus that cannot simply be working but some relation with others.

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ok, you are doing everything right,

i've searched and some guy on other forum had exactly same problem,
and he got it solved after he tried coding with other key

i dont have time right now to look into it, so if you got other key, try
maybe somewhere there are restrictions of codings on keys for that lights
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I think i have a solution for you,
add +ONSW to your VO and default code FRM3

let me know how it works
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sono0312

I think i have a solution for you,
add +ONSW to your VO and default code FRM3

let me know how it works
Hi Levanime,
Thanks for letting me know this...
it looks like one of vo values for 'deactivation NSW' i do not know if it will disable all the bulb functions related to front fogs. i have no friend's car with me but i will keep in mind for coming opportunity...
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