[Searcher]

First off congrats to both of you for your accomplishments with your new Stage 4 tunes. They are epic.

For a guy like me. I am saving up to do full deletes, EGR plate, Swirl flap deletes, full exhaust, intake, intercooler and meth.

I would like to leave the stock turbo system and fuel system in place.

Is it possible to hit 450-500whp and 600lbft torque at the wheels on the stock turbos and/or fuel system?

Thanks...

[335dsleeper]

No it is not. You can reach the torque with meth but, you'll need hybrids to hit 450whp+.

[Searcher]

So the limiting factor for 450whp is the size of the turbos and their airflow?

[atwal187]

Bpc stage 3 will put u at about 391 to the wheels , Randall said +-10 depending on each car. After that it's gonna be hybrids

[335dsleeper]

It's not a simple as a stage 3 tune alone. You'll need additional hardware modifications to achieve 365+ whp. Water injection, intake, deletes, etc.

Originally Posted by atwal187

Bpc stage 3 will put u at about 391 to the wheels , Randall said +-10 depending on each car. After that it's gonna be hybrids

[ASBSECU E93]

On stock turbos with all deletes, water/meth, intake, exhaust, stock fuel system and stock injectors, etc....stage 3 tune:

The most I could push was 390/620.

[Got-Torque]

Are the JR tune dyno graphs posted without meth? For example the 2.8 tune posted is with no meth injection or already has meth injection included?

[Searcher]

Can someone tell me the size of the small and large turbos? I find it hard to believe they are out of air at 300-350whp or so....Adding meth to get to 400whp is crazy, unless the turbos are actually that tiny....

[atwal187]

Originally Posted by 335dsleeper

It's not a simple as a stage 3 tune alone. You'll need additional hardware modifications to achieve 365+ whp. Water injection, intake, deletes, etc.

I'm just saying how much power is achieved before upgraded turbos

[Fork!TheSpoonWrecker]

You sir, are not living up to your name.

[335dsleeper]

^ I lol'd

[Searcher]

Originally Posted by Fork!TheSpoonWrecker

You sir, are not living up to your name.

Nice try Fork....I have researched. I just want to be thorough before making a final decision. It seems that hybrids can be a lot of money. So I am trying to compare where I want to spend it in regards to whp/torque and suspension mods/rear diff.

[Fork!TheSpoonWrecker]

Seems understandable. It was just too easy to pass by.

[Bob@BPC]

Originally Posted by Searcher

Can someone tell me the size of the small and large turbos? I find it hard to believe they are out of air at 300-350whp or so....Adding meth to get to 400whp is crazy, unless the turbos are actually that tiny....

Custom dyno tune,

full bolt ons, stock turbos and 1000cc/min 50/50 mix
STOCK FUEL PUMP & INJECTORS

Red: No Meth
Blue: Meth

[powellrm]

Wow big difference with meth addition. Shame on you BPC, getting people hooked on meth.

/that was a really bad joke and I'll ban myself for a week. 😔

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by powellrm

Wow big difference with meth addition. Shame on you BPC, getting people hooked on meth.

/that was a really bad joke and I'll ban myself for a week. 😔

It ain't such a bad habit. With the right set up - you can turn it on for when it's needed (*Ahem ) and off for normal everyday driving.

[powellrm]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

It ain't such a bad habit. With the right set up - you can turn it on for when it's needed (*Ahem ) and off for normal everyday driving.

I should be saving money, but on the other hand I'm not planning on having children in the next 5-7 years. Currently, my car is my child. So...

NO. I can't talk myself into it...

YET.

[Searcher]

Bob....thank you that is exactly what I needed.