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[Drifter2090]

Hello, I am currently looking at getting some new wheels, I am just concerned about the fitment, my car is lowered on KW V2's and the wheels I am looking to get are fairly aggressive 19x9.5 et22f and 19x11 et22r, I already have the tires 235/35/19 and 265/30/19. Will I need to run camber plates or a camber kit? how much camber can I get with no kit/plate?

I found a thread where someone ran a similar setup but its old and I cant ask him if he is running any camber kits:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=837414

Thanks!

here is the height my car sits at now

[Fundguy1]

Those are very low ets and wide wheels. Tyically 8.5 front and 9.5 to 10 rear with et 30 and et35 front and rear.

[9krpmrx8]

I don't see how you could without major work and really high spring rates. I am 19" x 9.5 +30 in the rear with a 265/30-19 on Bilstein PSS and I have found that I rub on some large dips on the highway at speed. I will be raising it a tad this weekend.

[Digitalize]

I run 19x9.5 ET27 and 19x11 ET35 with 235/35 and 275/30 on a Pre-LCI E91, I'm not sure how that compares to a Coupe though.

-1.5 on the front and -2.25 on the rear. Wheels tuck in the arches under compression so you could go a bit lower offset.

It's not impossible for sure, it will be tight though.

[Fundguy1]

Originally Posted by Digitalize

I run 19x9.5 ET27 and 19x11 ET35 with 235/35 and 275/30 on a Pre-LCI E91, I'm not sure how that compares to a Coupe though.

-1.5 on the front and -2.25 on the rear. Wheels tuck in the arches under compression so you could go a bit lower offset.

It's not impossible for sure, it will be tight though.

Remember different front fenders on e92/93. They're plastic so they shatter and can't be rolled or stretched. It may be possible if you want to do a track/stance camber to fit but youre buying tires every 5k miles then, and you'd need camber plates, etc.

[Digitalize]

At the moment my front tyres are on 3k and have worn about 1mm across, so not sure why you have these mid-conceptions.

You won't get much camber without camber plates, maybe -1?

My setup rubs the arch liner not the arch itself (other than when turning in car parks but that's height more than wheel size).

I just don't know how directly comparable the E90/1 are to the E92/3 for fitment, since the bodies are different.

[Fundguy1]

Originally Posted by Digitalize

At the moment my front tyres are on 3k and have worn about 1mm across, so not sure why you have these mid-conceptions.

You won't get much camber without camber plates, maybe -1?

My setup rubs the arch liner not the arch itself (other than when turning in car parks but that's height more than wheel size).

I just don't know how directly comparable the E90/1 are to the E92/3 for fitment, since the bodies are different.

Not a misconception. An exaggeration maybe. If you normally get say 15k miles from tires, you'll probably get 10k from stancing. Oem is cambeted out at the bottom in the rear. Invariably, the rear inner, right rear without an lsd, wears out first. This wear increases as you increase camber. As for camber yours aren't huge.

As for comparibility they aren't. Totally different space, liner, and fender. E90/91 is larger and can fit larger wheels, tires, offsets, etc.

[Digitalize]

Yeah it's not huge but my last set I sold after 30k with 5mm still on, I couldn't believe how long they lasted.

No it's not huge, but what I'm saying is you shouldn't need a huge amount to fit them in the arch. 9.5/11 is about max you can fit without running a big stretch or a lot of camber etc.

[Fundguy1]

Originally Posted by Digitalize

Yeah it's not huge but my last set I sold after 30k with 5mm still on, I couldn't believe how long they lasted.

No it's not huge, but what I'm saying is you shouldn't need a huge amount to fit them in the arch. 9.5/11 is about max you can fit without running a big stretch or a lot of camber etc.

Mileage is meaningless without saying what tire youre using. A toyo r888 will last 10k miles if you're lucky. An all season 60k with some models. Its how fast it wears relative to not cambering. 10% faster, 25%, more? My guess is at least 25% faster stanced vs oem camber.

[Digitalize]

They were Eagle F1's, so a tyre designed to be long lasting.

Stanced doesn't really make much sense, how much are you meaning? -3, -5, -8? Camber obviously increases wear rate, but the amount is minuscule compared to the effect toe will have.

Either way if the OP wants those wheels he can make them fit, but a 9/10 setup is an easier prospect.

[Fundguy1]

Originally Posted by Digitalize

They were Eagle F1's, so a tyre designed to be long lasting.

Stanced doesn't really make much sense, how much are you meaning? -3, -5, -8? Camber obviously increases wear rate, but the amount is minuscule compared to the effect toe will have.

Either way if the OP wants those wheels he can make them fit, but a 9/10 setup is an easier prospect.

He cant on an e92/93. Yes on an e90/91. But he doesn't have that. I know. I'm maxed out on mine. 19x8.5 et30 with 245/35-19 front, 19x11 et43 with 305/30-19. Both sets rub at extremes. Rear I had to roll and stretch the fenders. I have a 2008 e93 since new. Stock ride height, oem m3 camber specs and m3 front control arms.

[Drifter2090]

Thanks for the help guys, I talked to some of the stance guys and they said it is possible on stock camber but camber plates are recommended, some of them were running more aggressive fitment forgestar f14 sdc's with stock camber kit. The only problem is I will have to sacrifice a lot of drivability, I may stick to my M359's for a bit longer and think about it some more, sure it will look amazing but I don't know if I can make the sacrifice to the drivability yet