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[KiwiRD]

Hi all, looking for your thoughts on the effectiveness of this change!

Originally had the stock M193 wheels on my E90 335i with Hankook Ventus S1 Evo2 rubber in the usual 255/35R18 and 225/40R18 sizes. Nice enough combo but a bit blah.

Like many, I wanted the 19" 'look' and went for a set of AG M359 in 19x9 and 19x10 and bought some of the new Pilot Sport 4S to go with them in 235/35R19 and 265/30R19 - awesome tires! But what I felt was a little 'dulling' of the car - felt VERY planted, but a little less responsive and just a bit more dull. I am sure I could also feel the dampers getting taxed a little more over bumps on country roads. (I have a B12 kit with M3 arms and new tie rod assemblies)

However.......now I want the best of both worlds - the look of the 19" wheels but with less weight, so I'm thinking of selling the AG M359s and changing to 19" Apex ARC-8. This way I get to keep the Michelins and enjoy the unsprung weight savings. In total, by making this change the front wheel and tire combo would drop from 48lb to 42.4lb, and the rears would drop from 52.2lb to 44.5lb.

Is that going to be enough to feel a difference in handling and acceleration?

I realise the ride will still be worse than with 18" wheels, but I really want to keep hold of the Pilot Sport 4S as they aren't available in 18" sizes yet.

[ApexWheels]

Reducing rotational mass by installing the lighter 19" ARC-8's will certainly translate to better performance, however it's hard to say if it will be enough of an improvement to meet your expectations.

Moving down to 18" wheels will have a dramatic effect on the driving experience, one you are sure to notice behind the wheel.

We appreciate your interest, and please let us know if you have any questions.

- Ryan

[KiwiRD]

Originally Posted by ApexRaceParts

Reducing rotational mass by installing the lighter 19" ARC-8's will certainly translate to better performance, however it's hard to say if it will be enough of an improvement to meet your expectations.

Moving down to 18" wheels will have a dramatic effect on the driving experience, one you are sure to notice behind the wheel.

We appreciate your interest, and please let us know if you have any questions.

- Ryan

Hi Ryan,

I would have thought losing 6lb per front wheel and 8lb per rear wheel would have been quite noticeable?

[xhoul335i]

Originally Posted by KiwiRD

Hi Ryan,

I would have thought losing 6lb per front wheel and 8lb per rear wheel would have been quite noticeable?

I just had my 19" ARC-8s put on today and I can definitely feel the difference in weight. It almost felt like I was driving on air at first.

[KiwiRD]

Originally Posted by xhoul335i

I just had my 19" ARC-8s put on today and I can definitely feel the difference in weight. It almost felt like I was driving on air at first.

I like the sound of that! I definitely just felt the AG M359s we're almost too much wheel for the chassis, as though the wheels themselves were dictating the chassis dynamics. They look great but need to be about 5lb lighter per rim.

Glad to hear the ARC-8 in 19" feel great. Which front offset did you go for?

[xhoul335i]

Originally Posted by KiwiRD

I like the sound of that! I definitely just felt the AG M359s we're almost too much wheel for the chassis, as though the wheels themselves were dictating the chassis dynamics. They look great but need to be about 5lb lighter per rim.

Glad to hear the ARC-8 in 19" feel great. Which front offset did you go for?

I'm running 19x8.5 225/35/19 in the front and 19x9.5 255/30/19 in the rear. I'm getting slight rubbing in the front at full wheel lock, but I plan on doing a fender roll soon to see if it helps. Oh and I drive an e90 LCI.

[KiwiRD]

Originally Posted by xhoul335i

I'm running 19x8.5 225/35/19 in the front and 19x9.5 255/30/19 in the rear. I'm getting slight rubbing in the front at full wheel lock, but I plan on doing a fender roll soon to see if it helps. Oh and I drive an e90 LCI.

Are the front wheels ET20 or ET35? I'm trying to understand whether going for the ET20 would poke out too far.

[xhoul335i]

Originally Posted by KiwiRD

Are the front wheels ET20 or ET35? I'm trying to understand whether going for the ET20 would poke out too far.

Oh my bad. The fronts are ET20 and rears ET33. I think the front fitment is perfect(minus the rubbing) but it doesn't poke out too far or sink in too far.

[KiwiRD]

Originally Posted by xhoul335i

Oh my bad. The fronts are ET20 and rears ET33. I think the front fitment is perfect(minus the rubbing) but it doesn't poke out too far or sink in too far.

Thanks man. I really wish they would make a profile 3 face in ET35 but guess it wouldn't work. I'll probably got for the ET35 up front to avoid issues and just put up with the flatter profile.

[xhoul335i]

Originally Posted by KiwiRD

Thanks man. I really wish they would make a profile 3 face in ET35 but guess it wouldn't work. I'll probably got for the ET35 up front to avoid issues and just put up with the flatter profile.

I could send you pics later of the ET20 front when I get home from work. I think I might just have a bad alignment which could be the cause for me only rubbing on the front left. I'll be getting a new one done soon.

[KiwiRD]

Originally Posted by xhoul335i

I could send you pics later of the ET20 front when I get home from work. I think I might just have a bad alignment which could be the cause for me only rubbing on the front left. I'll be getting a new one done soon.

That would be really helpful if you could - thanks very much!