[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by te37

The way he is comparing it to BMW and other cars is irritating. I would like to see him do a non scripted review.

p.s. let's talk about all the other cars you can buy for 33k

All the other rwd sedans? That's a long list. The anemic and stripped out 320i or this. I really can't see why he'd be so bold to compare this to the sacred BMW.

[vinylengraver]

We have two Kias in the family. My wife's Soul had ZERO issues over 9 years of ownership and my daughter just got a new Forte, absolutely loaded for a true bargain price. The Stinger might just be the third... I am really looking forward to driving one, hopefully soon. I only wish it was a bit smaller and lighter...

I for one bought my 135i because of the engine and RWD, the roundel had little to do with why I own this particular BMW.
And last time I checked, nobody is embarrassed to own a Samsung phone, I really hope Hyundai/Kia will one day have the same brand image.

Having said that, they better come up with a better looking badge... cannot get much more generic than what they have now.

[Ali Shiralian]

Originally Posted by zoop

Count me and 2 of my buddies and people that will be. Badge envy changes over time... Look at Audi and Lexus... at one time they were upstarts also.

The thing about the Stinger is it gives S5 & 4 series performance but has rear legroom closer to a 5 series or S7. Thats a huge advantage for the typical 35-45 year old dad that is shopping for a sedan but doesnt want to spend over 60k and doesnt want to spend that much dough on a car that literally no longer turns heads because so many people have it. Couple that with the fact that the newer BMWs dont have the same sporty athleticism that they did 10 years ago and that their shape has not really been updated in 7 years, and I can definitely see more people looking at the KIA, or if not the KIA then the Genesis G70. Will it sell like hotcakes? Probably not, but even if they pull away 10% of buyers that would be a huge win for KIA.

Different strokes for different folks I guess. Kia has come a long way in terms of design and research but it's still a Kia. It took toyota and Honda and Nissan etc..a long time before they were taken seriously by auto enthusiasts and when they finally made it they realized they need to crest luxury divisions to compete wirh the likes of BMW and Audi and so on, hence Lexus, Acura and Infiniti. To this day they still haven't been able to defeat those brands although Lexus has done better than most and narroeing the gap.

I'm glad you don't think like most and are going to shop for Kia but I'm afraid you're in minority. Most people here won't, not yet anyways.


Cheers..

[ShocknAwe]

KIA/Hyundai definitely have my attention. Give them 5 years, should have something to rival the outstanding M cars of yesteryear.

[ASAP]

Seems like a solid car... the question is how many are people willing to pay 40k when numerous bmw's are available? I could be wrong but I hope this doesnt go the way of the Genesis brand. The resale value on expensive Korean cars is unlike anything the world has ever seen before

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by ASAP

Seems like a solid car... the question is how many are people willing to pay 40k when numerous bmw's are available? I could be wrong but I hope this doesnt go the way of the Genesis brand. The resale value on expensive Korean cars is unlike anything the world has ever seen before

I take you haven't priced a used i3? And let's be honest, what BMW is available for under $40k? Does it have any options, or any power?

[Germanauto]

It looks great in person too. I had the chance to see one up close at the mall not too long ago.

Unfortunately, I'm just not that confident in its sales potential. Not only is it entering a dying market (large sedans), but Kia also has no brand value to anybody looking for a performance car.

[Soulassassin]

If its rear wheel drive, how in the video does he get the front wheels spinning on the dirt?

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

It looks great in person too. I had the chance to see one up close at the mall not too long ago.

Unfortunately, I'm just not that confident in its sales potential. Not only is it entering a dying market (large sedans), but Kia also has no brand value to anybody looking for a performance car.

Define "great"

Nothing sets it apart IMO. Just another sedan going down the road.

[P1]

A fun rental car from Avis or Hertz I suppose?

[scorped]

Originally Posted by P1et

A fun rental car from Avis or Hertz I suppose?

As opposed to stripped down 320/328i rentals from Enterprise, that drive worse than civics, or A4s from Silvercar, that feel like they should wear a Jetta badge?

[P1]

Originally Posted by scorped

As opposed to stripped down 320/328i rentals from Enterprise, that drive worse than civics, or A4s from Silvercar, that feel like they should wear a Jetta badge?

My favorite rentals are Jettas or Passats.

[ShocknAwe]

Originally Posted by P1et

My favorite rentals are Jettas or Passats.

No shit. Cream my g string when rental companies have those.

What would you rather have, a Malibu? Ugh.

[P1]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

No shit. Cream my g string when rental companies have those.

What would you rather have, a Malibu? Ugh.

Worst I have ever had was a GMC Yukon. The worst of the worst.