True Cold air intake that keeps Intake temp low and constant

Blueeyesredpanda · 06-02-2018, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Biginboca

Yes, and in fact even without the air scoop (just normal factory set up) you get this effect you have described. The factory set up is very well done and is a true “cold air intake”. The actual benefit of air Scoops is questionable, adding an additional pathway is definitely going to be a better solution because Scoops are not addressing the main limitations of the factory set up.

The factory set up is limited in the snorkels which funnel air between the top of the grill and the airbox. So adding a second pathway to grab cold air from the front of the car can be helpful.

Some sealed cold air intakes (BMW performance intake comes to mind) replace the snorkels but I don’t know how much better the replacements flow vs stock, and other intakes (AFE and Dinan) add additional flow pathways separate to the stock snorkels.

Blueeyesredpanda · 06-02-2018, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by M.Etreby

Quick question
Doesnt the air scoop does almost the same, they direct more air into the box but still using original car setup, it may not be a bigger volume compared to a 3" pipe of course, yet as long as you are driving ahead you will keep getting cold air inside, right?

The purpose and idea of the scoop and ram air duct are the same, but the question comes to how effective is the scoop

If you have an OBD2 reader/gauge. You will notice the OEM Intake actually gets hot. IAT can be 20C + or even higher, that is not what you want.

M.Etreby · 06-04-2018, 11:34 AM

My car has the eurobox, for the PI it doesn't change much to mine except the extra part that withdraws air from just below the windshield

Phyrexia · 07-04-2018, 05:45 PM

I've been playing around with Torque on my phone the last few days in preparation for a long uphill drive. I've noticed my IATs with the Performance Intake are as low as +3F above ambient on the highway. I am going to do some more testing to confirm the dash thermometer reads the same as the OBDII ambient thermometer reading.

However these preliminary results are directly in line with my observed butt dyno results of the intake install, which were: sounds cool, seems to give a bigger boost on the highway than around town.

Blueeyesredpanda · 07-05-2018, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Phyrexia

I've been playing around with Torque on my phone the last few days in preparation for a long uphill drive. I've noticed my IATs with the Performance Intake are as low as +3F above ambient on the highway. I am going to do some more testing to confirm the dash thermometer reads the same as the OBDII ambient thermometer reading.

However these preliminary results are directly in line with my observed butt dyno results of the intake install, which were: sounds cool, seems to give a bigger boost on the highway than around town.

If i have a chance to get a euro performance intake i would probably still make a ram air

atmosphericM · 07-05-2018, 10:08 AM

I'd absolutely love to have the euro PI but I rarely see it for sale, used.

Can't justify $800 + for that ish lol.

Phyrexia · 07-05-2018, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by atmosphericM

I'd absolutely love to have the euro PI but I rarely see it for sale, used.

Can't justify $800 + for that ish lol.

I was happy to see such low IATs frankly. Makes me feel a little more justified in blowing said $800

Blueeyesredpanda · 07-05-2018, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by atmosphericM

I'd absolutely love to have the euro PI but I rarely see it for sale, used.

Can't justify $800 + for that ish lol.

Have not seen one in awhile. I added a new intake temp record to post #1.

Without the lid, cruising speed, intake temp is significantly lower than closed box, which is very strange.
But of course once it hits the red light, the intake temp INSTANTLY goes up, but ones car start moving, intake temp goes down

markslc1 · 09-01-2018, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by markslc1

part sources/numbers? Can this be done with a US N52 airbox?

Still wanna know the source for your parts and how you connected to the back of the bumper. I’m interested in giving this a try.

Blueeyesredpanda · 09-01-2018, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by markslc1

Still wanna know the source for your parts and how you connected to the back of the bumper. I’m interested in giving this a try.

Ebay search keyword

1. Ram air duct
2. air duct grille

Back to your qus, how to mount it?
If you see the grille that I got it has 6 screws, theres a front and rear plate. So our car's grille go in between this after market grille, using the screws to secure it.
All you need is a 3 inches hole saw cup

Efthreeoh · 09-01-2018, 05:21 AM

Has anyone actually measured the temperature difference and density differential between air that is 8 inches above the road vs. air that is 18 inches above the road?

Eagle1oh7 · 09-14-2018, 11:48 AM

Hey, so I've started doing this mod using my AFE intake using a 3" diameter duct. I removed the fender liner and when I looked into it I noticed that the bumper is readily accessible and I had the idea that maybe it would be easier and probably safer to cut out a hole and make a E46 M3 CSL-style ram air intake instead of using the brake duct depending on what kind of environment you drive in. Right now I'm in the process of smoothing out and widening the hole I cut into the AFE box since the flange I bought has a slightly larger outer diameter. I need to use some molding putty to make the mounting flush so I can bolt the flange to the box. Once that's done I'll cut a whole in the bumper and probably take it to a body shop to smooth out do a once over to make the paint around it look nice before installing another flange for the ducting.

CTrink · 10-25-2018, 11:35 PM

Where can I get a link for this inlet?

I've gone a similar route in my pre LCI with Xenons. Where I sacrificed a beautiful fog light due to my M-Sport bumper.

Blueeyesredpanda · 10-26-2018, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CTrink

Where can I get a link for this inlet?

I've gone a similar route in my pre LCI with Xenons. Where I sacrificed a beautiful fog light due to my M-Sport bumper.

Sorry the inlet that I have will NOT fit PRE LCI Msport bumper, UNLESS you shave/cut the inlet top and bottom flat. I hope this helps.

CTrink · 10-26-2018, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueeyesredpanda

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Originally Posted by CTrink

Where can I get a link for this inlet?

I've gone a similar route in my pre LCI with Xenons. Where I sacrificed a beautiful fog light due to my M-Sport bumper.

Sorry the inlet that I have will NOT fit PRE LCI Msport bumper, UNLESS you the inlet top and bottom flat. I hope this helps.

That's no problem. I just have not been able to find a link to purchase one.

Blueeyesredpanda · 10-26-2018, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CTrink

That's no problem. I just have not been able to find a link to purchase one.

On ebay search intake inlet grille

e90dum · 10-27-2018, 09:34 AM

have ya'll disconnected the constant pressure valve hose from the intake? that'd be the best way to make the intake temperature colder lol. I bet the stock airbox is good enough for the engine

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Phyrexia Resident Pedant 506 Rep 792 Posts Drives: '15 335i 8AT Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Limbo iTrader: (1)	I've been playing around with Torque on my phone the last few days in preparation for a long uphill drive. I've noticed my IATs with the Performance Intake are as low as +3F above ambient on the highway. I am going to do some more testing to confirm the dash thermometer reads the same as the OBDII ambient thermometer reading. However these preliminary results are directly in line with my observed butt dyno results of the intake install, which were: sounds cool, seems to give a bigger boost on the highway than around town. __________________ '15 F30 335i 8AT Estoril II/Black (12.218 @ 114.94mph) MHD Stage 2+ 93 / XHP Stage 3 / M-Goodies / K&N Filter / ER CP / CSF IC / NGK 97506 / ER DP / Michelin A/S 3+
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atmosphericM Basic Bimmer 523 Rep 930 Posts Drives: E92 328i 6MT ///M Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: B'ham iTrader: (1) Garage List 2013 BMW 328i Coupé ... [10.00]	I'd absolutely love to have the euro PI but I rarely see it for sale, used. Can't justify $800 + for that ish lol.
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Efthreeoh General 18940 Rep 19,588 Posts Drives: The E90 + Z4 Coupe & Z3 R'ster Join Date: May 2012 Location: Virginia iTrader: (0)	Has anyone actually measured the temperature difference and density differential between air that is 8 inches above the road vs. air that is 18 inches above the road? __________________ A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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Eagle1oh7 Lieutenant Colonel 289 Rep 1,710 Posts Drives: '11 328i Sedan Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Chula Vista CA iTrader: (0)	Hey, so I've started doing this mod using my AFE intake using a 3" diameter duct. I removed the fender liner and when I looked into it I noticed that the bumper is readily accessible and I had the idea that maybe it would be easier and probably safer to cut out a hole and make a E46 M3 CSL-style ram air intake instead of using the brake duct depending on what kind of environment you drive in. Right now I'm in the process of smoothing out and widening the hole I cut into the AFE box since the flange I bought has a slightly larger outer diameter. I need to use some molding putty to make the mounting flush so I can bolt the flange to the box. Once that's done I'll cut a whole in the bumper and probably take it to a body shop to smooth out do a once over to make the paint around it look nice before installing another flange for the ducting. __________________ DONE: Seibon CF Hood, M3 Rep, MSport rear w/DD CF Diffuser, M3 Rep Skirts, Seibon CSL trunklid, Forgestar F14 18s w/Michelin PSS, Eisenmann catback, AA Headers, BPC Stage 2, Charcoal Delete+revMotor+AFE Drop In filter FUTURE MODS: LED headlights, CF rooftop, M3 Suspension Conversion, Dinan CAI Mod
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CTrink Private First Class 28 Rep 151 Posts Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Kent, OH iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 BMW 330i [0.00]	Where can I get a link for this inlet? I've gone a similar route in my pre LCI with Xenons. Where I sacrificed a beautiful fog light due to my M-Sport bumper. Attached Images __________________
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e90dum Second Lieutenant 63 Rep 275 Posts Drives: E90 LCI 328i manual Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: East coast US iTrader: (0)	have ya'll disconnected the constant pressure valve hose from the intake? that'd be the best way to make the intake temperature colder lol. I bet the stock airbox is good enough for the engine __________________
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