What do I need to get Bluetooth working in my car?

dakine_surf · 02-14-2019, 11:14 PM

So I recently picked up an e91, 2007. I've been searching through a ton of threads and I seem to get confused as to what I need exactly to be able to connect my phone for telephone services. Last seven are FX15138, which tells me:

S640A Preparation F Telinstallation Universal
S676A HiFi Speaker System
S693A Preparation BMW Satellite Radio
S694A Provisions For BMW 6 CD Changer
S645A BMW US Radio
S663A Radio BMW Professional

So do I have Bluetooth phone or do I need something else to make it work?

I apologize if this has been talked about but when I search the threads I see conflicting info saying that a retrofit is necessary, and others saying that the professional radio has telephone built in.

Thanks

ctuna · 02-14-2019, 11:51 PM

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showt...4#post23244354

The above is a better than a BMW retrofit.(and cheap to)
It gives you phone , streaming music , a usb and and sd port.
The link in the first few entrys directs you to another box now
not the original the new link is towards the end of the thread.

If you want to go OEM then a mulf 2 high will give you phone and
USB . No streaming music though.
The programming is tricky for that though.

In all most all US e90's bluetooth phone and usb are handled
by and external box or boxes called a TCU/Mulf or Combox.
Doesn't matter if you have pro radio or idrive.

Tcu only do bluetooth telephone
Mulf 2 hi bluetooth phone and usb
Combox bluetooth phone and usb plus bluetooth streaming
but only if you have the newer idrive.
Some years come with a a TCU/Mulf combo the mulf is
under the TCU in this case.

The box mentioned above in the thread is not made by BMW
its not a TCU a Mulf or a combox.

Renner335i · 02-15-2019, 12:05 AM

So if you have a Bluetooth issue such as mine where I jumped the tcu and my radio came back but not Bluetooth. I bought another tcu and same exact issue, will this Bluetooth streaming allow me to have Bluetooth again? Mine is a 2007

dakine_surf · 02-15-2019, 12:17 AM

So I have the Mediabridge in my Mini, it runs off the cd changer and provides similar functions. I assume this is the same?

I don't have the Logic7 but I have prep for CDC and SAT... Is this a MOST loop or does the CDC and sat connect through another connection since I have HiFi?

I see the box in this link includes a mic, if my car has S640A, do I already have a factory mic?

ctuna · 02-15-2019, 12:19 AM

Renner335i · 02-15-2019, 12:31 AM

Optical jumper to bypass tcu. If not then the sos would be on and no audio. Bought another tcu and the exact same issue occurs. Sorry bought the lack of info

dakine_surf · 02-15-2019, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctuna

This helps, thanks...

What about the mic question I had above?

ctuna · 02-15-2019, 01:41 AM

If it had active bluetooth before it will have a Mike somewhere.
Not sure if that's part of the pre wiring package in cars from
06 to 09. People genraly have to change the wiring if they go
from a TCU to Mulf 2 for the Mike.

If you have a TCU you have a mike somewhere.
But the bluetooth box has one included.

Do a Vin check on your car check for TCU or Mulf 2Hi
use the this link

https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/

put in your model number then look up TCU or Mulf
diagram .

Also you could read the retrofit Bluetooth sticky at the top of this
subforum page.

Or this thread with the links

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3540

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1570901

BOTUS · 02-15-2019, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renner335i

Optical jumper to bypass tcu. If not then the sos would be on and no audio. Bought another tcu and the exact same issue occurs. Sorry bought the lack of info

TCU is very prone to failure.... best throw it in a skip where it belongs and upgrade to a Mulf2high or a combox if you want to use BM parts....

BOTUS · 02-15-2019, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctuna

If it had active bluetooth before it will have a Mike somewhere.
Not sure if that's part of the pre wiring package in cars from
06 to 09.

]

years back oct 2007 UK spec build,

mine had a mulf2high (for USB) but no wiring for BT antenna or Mic.... oddly they did run extra wires (most and power) for the cd changer pre wiring... strange bunch at the factory, running some mic wires to the ZFE interior light (is that the right name I forget) and fitting a genuine mic is easy enough.

ctuna · 02-15-2019, 04:23 PM

Just a note to dakine if you actually surf you may
want to get a plastic surfers key you can where around your
neck while in the water.

dakine_surf · 02-15-2019, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctuna

Just a note to dakine if you actually surf you may
want to get a plastic surfers key you can where around your
neck while in the water.

I sure do, along with a number of other water activities, I would be extremely interested in this, is it just a spare key? Mine didn't have the spare in the glovebox like the manual described.

ctuna · 02-15-2019, 05:39 PM

Its a plastic key with a encoded chip in it .
Its inserted into a special keyfob shell that's
just and empty shell so it can be inserted
into the dash to start the car.
The key will unlock and lock your car through the
key slot on the driver door.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/233107629257?ViewItem=&vxp

My car came with the dead Fob but not the Key
It was about 85 from BMW.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23310762925...m=233107629257

https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=903551

go down to the mashman entry's in the above

I put my regular fob inside a mentos box to block
the radio signals when I am out in the water.

Are you Foiling , Suping , Kiting , windsurfng
combinations of the above and surfing?

dakine_surf · 02-15-2019, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctuna

I put my regular fob inside a mentos box to block
the radio signals when I am out in the water.

I am assuming you leave this in the car and it allows you to lock to doors with the FOB inside? What kind of mentos box? Will any metal box work?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctuna

Are you Foiling , Suping , Kiting , windsurfng
combinations of the above and surfing?

Well I just got a new 6'0" round nose pin tail with 5 fins, huge rails and super wide... should be a fun board in the spring but I also Dive, a lot, and I have a kite and foil.

You ride?

ctuna · 02-15-2019, 07:31 PM

Faraday cage blocks the radio signals .
Since I have comfort access this is needed.
yeah I hide it the car somewhere.
Then I test to see that I can't open the doors.

I am an old longboarder but have been windsurfing
about 25 years to still do that. Lately I Sup mostly cause I can't
hop up quickly anymore. Can't paddle very far on
a longboard either. My surfing hey day was in the mid to late
60's no chord days. Lots of foilers here these days on super short
boards and SUP's.

dakine_surf · 02-15-2019, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctuna

Faraday cage blocks the radio signals .
Since I have comfort access this is needed.
yeah I hide it the car somewhere.
Then I test to see that I can't open the doors.

I am an old longboarder but have been windsurfing
about 25 years to still do that. Lately I Sup mostly cause I can't
hop up quickly anymore. Can't paddle very far on
a longboard either. My surfing hey day was in the mid to late
60's no chord days. Lots of foilers here these days on super short
boards and SUP's.

Rad, I longboard a lot around here in the summer since we are south facing... never worn a leash on my longboard either

:

I do a lot of diving these days, lots of fishing, slings and guns, I like to explore and the Channel Islands are some of the greatest diving in the world for that stuff.

ctuna · 02-15-2019, 09:33 PM

I wear a leash now when Sup surfing and have for long
time no more long swims for me. (or broken boards)

02-14-2019, 11:14 PM	#1
dakine_surf Captain 434 Rep 600 Posts Drives: TiAg e91, r53 Cooper S, e28 M5 Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Santa Barbara/Modena iTrader: (1)	What do I need to get Bluetooth working in my car? So I recently picked up an e91, 2007. I've been searching through a ton of threads and I seem to get confused as to what I need exactly to be able to connect my phone for telephone services. Last seven are FX15138, which tells me: S640A Preparation F Telinstallation Universal S676A HiFi Speaker System S693A Preparation BMW Satellite Radio S694A Provisions For BMW 6 CD Changer S645A BMW US Radio S663A Radio BMW Professional So do I have Bluetooth phone or do I need something else to make it work? I apologize if this has been talked about but when I search the threads I see conflicting info saying that a retrofit is necessary, and others saying that the professional radio has telephone built in. Thanks
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ctuna Lieutenant General 2039 Rep 13,352 Posts Drives: 325xi 06 wagon MT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca iTrader: (0)	https://www.e90post.com/forums/showt...4#post23244354 The above is a better than a BMW retrofit.(and cheap to) It gives you phone , streaming music , a usb and and sd port. The link in the first few entrys directs you to another box now not the original the new link is towards the end of the thread. If you want to go OEM then a mulf 2 high will give you phone and USB . No streaming music though. The programming is tricky for that though. In all most all US e90's bluetooth phone and usb are handled by and external box or boxes called a TCU/Mulf or Combox. Doesn't matter if you have pro radio or idrive. Tcu only do bluetooth telephone Mulf 2 hi bluetooth phone and usb Combox bluetooth phone and usb plus bluetooth streaming but only if you have the newer idrive. Some years come with a a TCU/Mulf combo the mulf is under the TCU in this case. The box mentioned above in the thread is not made by BMW its not a TCU a Mulf or a combox. Last edited by ctuna; 02-15-2019 at 12:18 AM..
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Renner335i Private First Class 32 Rep 189 Posts Drives: 07 335i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Md iTrader: (3)	So if you have a Bluetooth issue such as mine where I jumped the tcu and my radio came back but not Bluetooth. I bought another tcu and same exact issue, will this Bluetooth streaming allow me to have Bluetooth again? Mine is a 2007
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dakine_surf Captain 434 Rep 600 Posts Drives: TiAg e91, r53 Cooper S, e28 M5 Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Santa Barbara/Modena iTrader: (1)	So I have the Mediabridge in my Mini, it runs off the cd changer and provides similar functions. I assume this is the same? I don't have the Logic7 but I have prep for CDC and SAT... Is this a MOST loop or does the CDC and sat connect through another connection since I have HiFi? I see the box in this link includes a mic, if my car has S640A, do I already have a factory mic?
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ctuna Lieutenant General 2039 Rep 13,352 Posts Drives: 325xi 06 wagon MT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca iTrader: (0)	Your are very confused. What your saying makes no sense. Jumped what does that mean.(optical jumper installed) CDC and Sat are most bus devices . also TCU , mulf , combox, Iboc With Hi Fi the connections are analog. but only for the amp. BMW stereo types http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=352586 http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...2&d=1266451970 http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...2&d=1260829447 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343673 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138949 http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...1&d=1209780605 http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...1&d=1209780865 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=641323 http://bmwcoders.com/forum/3-er-8/bm...1-e92-e93-291/ http://technicpnp.com/menuDiagrams/d...e90_92_93.html http://www.musicarnw.com/page-2/ http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...3&d=1169133185 http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...4&d=1278871872 Last edited by ctuna; 02-15-2019 at 12:25 AM..
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Renner335i Private First Class 32 Rep 189 Posts Drives: 07 335i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Md iTrader: (3)	Optical jumper to bypass tcu. If not then the sos would be on and no audio. Bought another tcu and the exact same issue occurs. Sorry bought the lack of info
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02-15-2019, 01:41 AM	#8
ctuna Lieutenant General 2039 Rep 13,352 Posts Drives: 325xi 06 wagon MT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca iTrader: (0)	If it had active bluetooth before it will have a Mike somewhere. Not sure if that's part of the pre wiring package in cars from 06 to 09. People genraly have to change the wiring if they go from a TCU to Mulf 2 for the Mike. If you have a TCU you have a mike somewhere. But the bluetooth box has one included. Do a Vin check on your car check for TCU or Mulf 2Hi use the this link https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/ put in your model number then look up TCU or Mulf diagram . Also you could read the retrofit Bluetooth sticky at the top of this subforum page. Or this thread with the links https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3540 https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1570901 Last edited by ctuna; 02-15-2019 at 02:03 PM..
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ctuna Lieutenant General 2039 Rep 13,352 Posts Drives: 325xi 06 wagon MT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca iTrader: (0)	Just a note to dakine if you actually surf you may want to get a plastic surfers key you can where around your neck while in the water.
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02-15-2019, 05:39 PM	#13
ctuna Lieutenant General 2039 Rep 13,352 Posts Drives: 325xi 06 wagon MT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca iTrader: (0)	Its a plastic key with a encoded chip in it . Its inserted into a special keyfob shell that's just and empty shell so it can be inserted into the dash to start the car. The key will unlock and lock your car through the key slot on the driver door. https://www.ebay.com/itm/233107629257?ViewItem=&vxp My car came with the dead Fob but not the Key It was about 85 from BMW. https://www.ebay.com/itm/23310762925...m=233107629257 https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=903551 go down to the mashman entry's in the above I put my regular fob inside a mentos box to block the radio signals when I am out in the water. Are you Foiling , Suping , Kiting , windsurfng combinations of the above and surfing? Last edited by ctuna; 02-15-2019 at 05:57 PM..
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ctuna Lieutenant General 2039 Rep 13,352 Posts Drives: 325xi 06 wagon MT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca iTrader: (0)	Faraday cage blocks the radio signals . Since I have comfort access this is needed. yeah I hide it the car somewhere. Then I test to see that I can't open the doors. I am an old longboarder but have been windsurfing about 25 years to still do that. Lately I Sup mostly cause I can't hop up quickly anymore. Can't paddle very far on a longboard either. My surfing hey day was in the mid to late 60's no chord days. Lots of foilers here these days on super short boards and SUP's.
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ctuna Lieutenant General 2039 Rep 13,352 Posts Drives: 325xi 06 wagon MT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca iTrader: (0)	I wear a leash now when Sup surfing and have for long time no more long swims for me. (or broken boards)
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