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02-10-2019, 09:49 AM | #1 |
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Replace TCU by MULF2
Hi, I have BMW radio professional and TCU unit in the trunk on my E92 2009. I would like to add USB functionality.
Could I simply replace TCU by MULF2? Are sockets on TCU and MULF2 the same? Would I need some kind of socket adapter wires? I would loose only SOS button by doing this replacement? I would need coding? |
02-10-2019, 12:48 PM | #2 |
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No support for SOS anymore by BMW in the US so you
already lost it. Due to its only 2g and there is no 2g anymore. Yes coding is necessary. Yes you can do that but it might be easier to do this. https://www.e90post.com/forums/showt...ight=bluetooth mulf threads http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1181654 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...5#post19088745 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1344811 |
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02-10-2019, 03:41 PM | #3 | |
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If it does not work that makes perfect sense to remove TCU and install MULF2. Its a bit cheaper than "Bluetooth Streaming Box" as I prefer USB, and its maybe more clean to have one MULF2 than TCU+BluetoothStreamingBox. I will test SOS button tomorrow and see what does it do. |
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02-10-2019, 06:30 PM | #4 |
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But the original version of the streaming box has both
and sd slot and a usb slot both of which play music files. Here in the state 2g is history and also it was a pay for it subscription service. Don't know about the rest of the World. This one https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bluetooth-U....c100005.m1851 Which is actually the one in the installation link. Last edited by ctuna; 02-10-2019 at 06:39 PM.. |
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02-11-2019, 11:20 AM | #5 |
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For now I am interested in USB only, I hope I wont want bluetooth later...
I tried pressing SOS button today and it seems that it does nothing. I think it might be coded out already, how could I check that? I tried reading 2URAD and TCUM with NCSExpert but getting this error for these modules (I can read other modules fine): How could I fix it and read 2URAD and TCUM? P.S. It would be nice to map SOS button to some kind of function, like turn off traction control |
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02-11-2019, 02:18 PM | #6 |
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First of all do you have Inpa working?
Looks like you don't if you are getting cable errors. Go to functional jobs in Inpa an readout the hardware with the F2 and F3 functions. Do this before preceding to NCS when you get the cable working. You should list the year and model of the car. And I would go to one of the free vin checker sites and find out the options the car came with . SOS If you pulled the fiberoptic from the TCU that would tell you as you would induce and SOS error but why do that when you can read the cars modules with Inpa. See bimmerprofs page one Inpa functional jobs. diagnostic manual ista/inpa https://bimmerprofs.com/diagnostics-inpa-part-1/ https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...xo19teM9vkTF-C https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...7x8H3pN8h1fMuF https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...-P-actually-do Yes I realize streaming data is of lesser quality than usb but this box has USB and SD slots. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bluetooth-U....c100005.m1851 Last edited by ctuna; 02-11-2019 at 02:34 PM.. |
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02-11-2019, 02:38 PM | #7 |
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I had done some coding with NCSExpert before like removing TPMS and coding it to work with FTM. So Inpa and NCSExpert should be configured correctly.
This is what I have read with same cable and same PC setup: Where could be the problem? Last edited by Hotter; 02-11-2019 at 02:44 PM.. |
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02-11-2019, 03:38 PM | #8 |
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So its a Rad2 not 2urad
from first printout Rad2 = mostgateway. https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh....php?t=1283622 Last edited by ctuna; 02-11-2019 at 03:48 PM.. |
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02-12-2019, 03:04 PM | #9 | |
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As I understand you cant read 2URAD (RAD2) and TCUM (TCU) modules with D-Can cable from ebay. Only code them with VO values. Hopefully I wont need backup. I will think about which module its better for me to buy, and will need to wait for shipping... I will write DIY after if I will have success. Also found some detailed article on similar question https://www.babybmw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=54406 |
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02-12-2019, 03:16 PM | #10 |
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The earlier cars pre 07 could program Most Bus modules
without Icom. I think the cutoff date was 3/07 build in the US. This has always been a nebulously defined subject Some of the guy on the coding board say a VO code gets around this . But you can't manipulate individual parameters that way as as far as I know. Also I wonder if putting modules in from newer years stops you from being able to code those modules even in older car. Changing the production date of the car to get it to load new software on an older car seems to be one of the tricks often used for Mulf 2 Hi installation. That one and the USB Radio retrofits are the ones I know about. Getting changes from L7 to Hi Fi or vicsa versa seems to be another one where Icom is needed on newer cars. I know the name of the Radio software changed at some point. Some people have had problems with mulf and other options and have had to update the radio software or get a more uptodate radio. Also this is another vague area. |
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02-14-2019, 03:33 PM | #11 |
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I got offer with great price for MULF2 in my local area so I could not resist and bought it. I already switched it with TCU.
Changing places TCU to MULF2 was not hard, though TCU connector is a bit different so I needed to trim connector a bit to fit to MULF2. I did not do any coding yet. I am getting SOS error in instrument cluster. I already saw USB icon on Radio, when clicking on USB icon I get "Insert" message (don't have USB cable, so cant test it, shipping from ebay will taike time...) so it seems to work? But I don't see Telephone icon any more, so I guess Bluetooth is gone... Is this what I need to do to disable SOS? Code:
KOMBI: TCM_ALIVE_MONITOR -> nicht_activ TCM_ID_MONITOR -> nicht_activ What about bluetooth? I also noticed that AUX is not working any more. I guess its switched to MULF2 AUX? How to switch it back to radio AUX? My VO codes: Code:
#0909 &KASW %0300 *WB33 $1CA $205 $2MF $337 $403 $459 $481 $4B9 $507 $521 $522 $524 $534 $544 $563 $570 $5DS $639 $645 $655 $663 $697 $704 $715 $760 $775 $7XA $823 $840 $845 $850 $853 $876 $925 -B080 Code:
Prod.date: 2009-09-11 S1CA SELECTION COP RELEVANT VEHICLES S2MF BMW alloy wheel, M spider spoke 193 S2VB Tyre pressure control (TPC) S4B9 Interieurleisten Alu Feinschliff S5DS Emergency release, luggage compartment S7XA M leather st.wheel+shiftpaddle+multif. S8SC Telematics access request,country-spec. S8SP Control unit COP S205 Automatic transmission P337 M Sports package S403 Glass roof, electrical S459 Seat adjustment, electric, with memory S481 Sports seat S507 Park Distance Control (PDC), rear S521 Rain sensor S522 Xenon Light S524 Adaptive Headlights S534 Automatic air conditioning S544 Cruise control with brake function S563 Light package S570 Reinforced power supply S639 Preparation f mobile phone cpl. USA/CDN S645 BMW US Radio S655 Satellite tuner S663 Radio BMW Professional S697 Area-Code 1 for DVD S704 M Sports suspension S715 M Aerodynamics package S760 High gloss shadow line S775 Headlining anthracite S823 Hot-climate version S840 High speed synchronisation S845 Acoustic fasten seat belt reminder S850 Additional Export tank filling S853 Language version, English S876 Radio frequency 315 MHz S925 Dispatch protection pack Last edited by Hotter; 02-14-2019 at 03:51 PM.. |
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02-14-2019, 03:54 PM | #12 |
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From posts on the coding board its either 6fl
with the aux coming from the mulf combox or not . No choice . Be careful of the spelling of activ I think its spelled with a K aktiv compare it to other aktiv spellings. You should only have to remove nicht anyway. I believe you have to repin the connector or buy one of the adapter cables for the TCU. Bluetooth is contained in the Mulf module to for phone. https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1429377 see entry 8 in the above. Last edited by ctuna; 02-14-2019 at 04:17 PM.. |
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02-17-2019, 11:35 AM | #13 |
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For coding I have done this for VO:
Removed $639 Added $644 and $6FL Reset to factory defaults: CAS, NFRM, KOMBI, FZD. After reset I saw changes only in KOMBI: Code:
TCM_ALIVE_MONITOR nicht_activ TCM_ID_MONITOR nicht_activ CBS_SCEN_01H nicht_aktiv CBS_SCEN_02H nicht_aktiv CBS_SCEN_03H nicht_aktiv CBS_SCEN_04H nicht_aktiv CBS_SCEN_06H nicht_aktiv CBS_SCEN_07H nicht_aktiv CBS_SCEN_10H nicht_aktiv CBS_SCEN_11H nicht_aktiv CBS_SCEN_12H nicht_aktiv CBS_SCEN_13H nicht_aktiv CBS_SCEN_14H nicht_aktiv CBS_SCEN_20H nicht_aktiv CBS_SCEN_21H nicht_aktiv SOS error does not appear any more, but Radio shows all the same menus as before: USB with "- -" icon, no Bluetooth and BMW assist is still there. I believe I need to reset 2URAD (RAD2) to factory default? But When I try to do SG_CODIEREN (or CODIERDATEN_LESEN) I get same error as before: Code:
2020 Error LFCDHDIA.CPP (A_E65MMI.IPS/IPO) CDHapiResultText 1 SG antwortet nicht IFH-0009: SG nicht angeschlossen oder meldet sich nicht RAD2 Any ideas? Last edited by Hotter; 02-17-2019 at 11:57 AM.. |
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02-17-2019, 01:33 PM | #14 |
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Did you read the file in the 2urad it lists which options
are turned on and off. I believe ulf is the Mulf or usb . when you change the VO it does not change the module till you default (VO code the module) Lessen means to read in German so coderiedn lessen literally mean read the code. Not write the code. https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...ith-NCS-Expert To remove SOS at the VO level I believe -Teld or +Teld is used You should really move this to the coding sub forum as these are all coding questions. SG does not answer IFH-0009: SG not connected or does not answer RAD2 The guy in the following thread where struggling with the 2rad and 2urad problem https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1048129 Last edited by ctuna; 02-17-2019 at 02:08 PM.. |
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02-18-2019, 06:38 AM | #15 |
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Below is my thread where I retrofitted a MULF2 HI into an 06 using the TCU wiring. Your current aux wire may go to the head unit so you may need to run a new one to the trunk. If I were to do this mod again, I would just hook a tune2air (bluetooth music) to the MULF2 HI and leave it in the trunk. ebay has some generic standar USB to bmw USB connectors. Aux in is a few new pins added to your TCU wiring.
Most MULF2 HI have the bluetooth phone disabled. In the US, they are normally just used for USB. You may need to enable BT in the module via coding. https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1344811 |
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